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    Originally posted by SWITCHCRAFT@Aug 8 2009, 03:17 PM~14711939
    i have 3 questions here and i'm not hating just wondering
    1¬* why does the type of reducer matter?

    2¬* are your flakes not compatable with omni reducers?

    3¬* why would the customer want to pay more money if what he originally wanted didn't "turn out" right?
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    I'm close to painting my Caprice and my base, clear, reducer is omni. I have used omni reducer with the bad azz blue and the cherry pie with no problems so
    hmmm.......

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    No Problem.....You have to realize that chemicals are complex and I wouldn't recommend putting reactive reducer DRR in dupont paint or non related products...We have no issues with omni but I've heard some stories at sema about a different line,with omni and having issues,I can't go further on that...mixing products that are non compatable could create problems...30 dollar clear and 300 dollar clear might not perform or act the same..I can always tell a difference myself between low dollar clear,doesn't mean I wouldn't use it...I sell 4 brands between 69.00 to 89.00 complete..some clear doesn't have uv protection at all.. uv protection stops fade.....If I was doing my own project with kandy or flake I would use a uv protected clear...I'm asking questions because I have no answers to a one month fade,never heard of one or seen it till now....I'm going to shoot the store sign in the freekin fushia..I've sold that product for 5 years .. I'll shoot this surfboard and let it sit in the rays...


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    Omni has No U.V protection,this info was paased on to me by thier paint rep(the guy I used to run a shop with was a PPG/Omni platinum distributor).I'd only use Omni,shopline on beaters,or cheap dailys.
    I have used it as a carrier for flake,followed by topcoat of high end clear after sanding flat.

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    we used some clear that stack got from his supplier in the bay same clear was used on the roof of the hopper, there was no issue there ,just wondering why. ive done flake jobs with all kinds of clear. best flake i used was from a company in north hollywood called r.e.i warehouse, place had 50 gal drums of every color even cut glass

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    Originally posted by KINGFISH_CUSTOM209@Aug 9 2009, 07:06 PM~14720394
    we used some clear that stack got from his supplier in the bay same clear was used on the roof of the hopper, there was no issue there ,just wondering why. ive done flake jobs with all kinds of clear. best flake i used was from a company in north hollywood called r.e.i warehouse, place had 50 gal drums of every color even cut glass ¬* ¬* ¬*
    they still around??
    we used to go to a place in the San Fernando valley called sparklets
    they had octagon,square and crazy ass fllakes but they closed down years ago

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    i learned to flake cars with flake from them they became rei. i went there as a kidwith my theo gil

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    i liked the star shaped flake

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    Originally posted by NEWTON@Aug 9 2009, 05:00 PM~14718827
    No Problem.....You have to realize that chemicals are complex and I wouldn't recommend putting¬* reactive reducer DRR in dupont paint or non related products...We have no issues with omni but I've heard some stories at sema about a different line,with omni and having issues, I can't go further on that ...mixing products that are non compatable could create problems...30 dollar clear and 300 dollar clear might not perform or act the same..I can always tell a difference myself between low dollar clear,doesn't mean I wouldn't use it...I sell 4 brands between 69.00 to 89.00 complete..some clear doesn't have uv protection at all.. uv protection stops fade.....If I was doing my own project with kandy or flake I would use a uv protected clear...I'm asking questions because I have no answers to a one month fade,never heard of one or seen it till now....I'm going to shoot the store sign in the freekin¬* fushia..I've sold that product for 5 years .. I'll shoot¬* this surfboard and let it sit in the rays...
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    Originally posted by lowdeville@Aug 9 2009, 05:17 PM~14718945
    Omni has No U.V protection,this info was paased on to me by thier paint rep(the guy I used to run a shop with was a PPG/Omni platinum distributor).I'd only use Omni,shopline on beaters,or cheap dailys.
    I have used it as a carrier for flake,followed by topcoat of high end clear after sanding flat.
    just got off the phone with my ppg rep, he says all omni clear has uv protectants , just not as good as the ppg clears.....
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    Originally posted by NEWTON@Aug 9 2009, 08:00 PM~14718827
    No Problem.....You have to realize that chemicals are complex and I wouldn't recommend putting¬* reactive reducer DRR in dupont paint or non related products...We have no issues with omni but I've heard some stories at sema about a different line,with omni and having issues,I can't go further on that...mixing products that are non compatable could create problems...30 dollar clear and 300 dollar clear might not perform or act the same..I can always tell a difference myself between low dollar clear,doesn't mean I wouldn't use it...I sell 4 brands between 69.00 to 89.00 complete..some clear doesn't have uv protection at all.. uv protection stops fade.....If I was doing my own project with kandy or flake I would use a uv protected clear...I'm asking questions because I have no answers to a one month fade,never heard of one or seen it till now....I'm going to shoot the store sign in the freekin¬* fushia..I've sold that product for 5 years .. I'll shoot¬* this surfboard and let it sit in the rays...
    what about the dupont and nason clears and reducers then?
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    Originally posted by youcantfademe@Aug 10 2009, 11:51 AM~14725041
    just got off the phone with my ppg rep, he says all omni clear has uv protectants , just not as good as the ppg clears.....

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    Originally posted by NEWTON@Aug 10 2009, 01:00 AM~14718827
    No Problem.....You have to realize that chemicals are complex and I wouldn't recommend putting¬* reactive reducer DRR in dupont paint or non related products...We have no issues with omni but I've heard some stories at sema about a different line,with omni and having issues,I can't go further on that...mixing products that are non compatable could create problems...30 dollar clear and 300 dollar clear might not perform or act the same..I can always tell a difference myself between low dollar clear,doesn't mean I wouldn't use it...I sell 4 brands between 69.00 to 89.00 complete..some clear doesn't have uv protection at all.. uv protection stops fade.....If I was doing my own project with kandy or flake I would use a uv protected clear...I'm asking questions because I have no answers to a one month fade,never heard of one or seen it till now....I'm going to shoot the store sign in the freekin¬* fushia..I've sold that product for 5 years .. I'll shoot¬* this surfboard and let it sit in the rays...


    in a way i see your point but they are all urethanes at the end of the day


    in my OPINION it seems like that is every companies first excuse when something gos wrong

    it's either that or, "who painted it" lol they could be talking to the Kandyman himself and they wouldn't know it, hey that would be a good "experiment"

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    I just ordered 7 jars of the monster flakes, lets see how they work out

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    im a big fan of the roth flake, been working just fine for me.
    s l o w l a n e

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    Originally posted by elspock84@Aug 5 2009, 07:35 PM~14688051
    man steven dont trip since the first time i dealt wit yaw i was hooked yaw gave me some great advice and lead me in the right direction. i think yaw have great product.¬* i bought 2 lbs of flake from you guys and da flake buster¬* about 2yrs go. heres some pics .



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    Originally posted by danny chawps@Mar 17 2010, 07:49 AM~16914908
    :0¬* :0¬* :0¬* :0 i used the xotic brand flake ...i gotta try that , link please ?
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    i used some of the fuscia on a white car and no problems
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    Originally posted by SWITCHCRAFT@Aug 10 2009, 10:13 PM~14732217
    in a way i see your point but they are all urethanes at the end of the day
    in my OPINION it seems like that is every companies first excuse when something gos wrong

    it's either that or, "who painted it"¬* lol¬* they could be talking to the Kandyman himself and they wouldn't know it,¬* hey that would be a good "experiment"
    the simple fact is we as a whole are taking these products wether cheap or high dollar and abusing there original use we clear these cars with enough clear to refinish 3 to 4 cars im no differant i just tell the customer that eventually its going to fail film build can not be any more than 8 to 14 mills at a stretch after that well we all know what that looks like i get about 8 years from a candy here in florida i dont know how it is in cali but your clear if at all else should be the best quality product you can afford even if it means you wait and save some more dough it will show on the back end with a longer lasting finish

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