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    I havnt been on here for awhile since I sold my Cadillac. Since then I've picked up a 95 lincoln Mark VIII that came with factory air ride. I snatched all the factory management stuff out and modified my bags to accept NPT fittings. I put in viair 444 5 gal tank 1/4" line and paddles for each corner. The shit is cool but slow. I bought some 3/4" Danz valves which are huge but I got them at smoker prices. I also bought some 9 wire, 4 three prong switches and 2 six prong switches. I'm gonna run 1/2" fittings and line. This is my daily so I wanted to redo the management but upgrade from plastic to hydraulic hose for dependability. As far as the hose is concerned I'm looking for 1/2" inside diameter. I'm just concerned on the type of hose ends to get? Can I get away with npt ends or do I need the hydraulic style ends? The bags on the car are factory ford units so I'm not trying to run crazy pressure thru them. Right now it's set at 180 max and I might bump up the pressure to 200-250 in the future.
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    Thats going to be stupid fast! I had 1/4 paddles on my S10. Just went to 3/8 valves and line and its a huge improvement. I don't think I would want any faster unless I was trying to hop it. I don't know about hydro lines, but 1/4 OD lines are 1/8 ID, 3/8 OD are 1/4 ID, 1/2 are 3/8. Your 3/4 valves with 1/2 ID LINE? that shits going to jump! ....and slam on the ground when you dump it.

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    I'm gonna put a plug in the dump valve and drill a 3/8"s or so hole in it for a slow down.
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    Definitly start the holes small and see how it goes. Maybe 1/8 or so. With lines that big,you won't have any restriction. Keep us posted!

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    You will have restriction at the bag.pretty sure the bag ports only 1/4"

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggedout81 View Post
    You will have restriction at the bag.pretty sure the bag ports only 1/4"
    . The factory bag port is hella small. It's probably an 1/8". I used the old solenoid port with the paddles I have in now. I took a 1/2" npt pipe tap and tapped the solenoid port then put a 1/2"mip to 1/4"fip bushing in there with a little jb weld as a sealer. After that I used a 1/4" mip to 1/4" ptc and ran the air line....it worked great.

    In the pics below I drilled and tapped the upper housing of a bad bag I had laying around. You can see the size difference between the factory port, 3/8"s and 1/2". The thickness of the factory upper cup is about a 1/2" so the fittings get a good bite and hold pressure with no issues. So this time around I'm gonna drill and tap the bag, run a 1/2" mip to 1/2" fib extender in there then a 1/2" air line fitting after that.

    The factory bags are made for Ford by Firestone. There are also a few other after market company's that make aftermarket replacements.
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    Valves came today. I got them at 19.95 each.
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    Nice! Good luck mate.

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    I should have the 1/2" valves by tomorrow. I ordered 6 so my front fill will be 3/4" dump 1/2" and the rear will be 1/2".
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    Back to the original question though. Before I order hydraulic hose do I need to use jic fittings or can I use npt swivel hose ends? The hose maker said he can make either. Is there an advantage to using jic?
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    Use Npt fittings.the valves are Npt

    If you can get swivel ends on both end.just makes it a little easier.if not you can add the swivel ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggedout81 View Post
    Use Npt fittings.the valves are Npt

    If you can get swivel ends on both end.just makes it a little easier.if aww Set onot you can add the swivel ends
    Cool. What about DOT rubber air brake hose? Is it decent?

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    I ordered a switch plate from hoppos but when it was time to install it I ran into several issues. Not with the part but with the the contours of my dash in the Mark. No matter how and where I tried to mount it there was an issue with curvature, accessories behind the dash or length. The plate is going on eBay. I went to radio shack and picked up a 5x3x2.5 inch project box for $6. Drilled the holes and mounted them up. The two up top are 3 prong. The ones in middle are 6 prong for front and back and the bottoms are 3 prong. Cost of switch box so far is a little over $30. It kinda looks like an avs arc t7.
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