[old_school_48]

hey guys, i'm gonna be doing my first hydro install this winter but i want to use acumalators so it will ride like my other bag setups ( yes i am a air guy but i'm trying to get into juice) i know pretty much how everything works and goes together in a hydro set up except acumalators, what are they, where do they go and how do they work are my three questions, hope one of you juice fanatics can help a fellow air guy out :biggrin:

 

[Crush]

http://www.layitlow.com/tech.shtml#accumulator

 

[BOUNCIN89MERC2LOW97LHS]

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[BOUNCIN89MERC2LOW97LHS]

A simple explanation is this... they have a rubber diaphragm in the middle which separates the two halves. The accumulators are plumbed into the pressure side of the hydraulics, therefore hydro-fluid fills one side of the rubber diaphragm. The other side of the accumulator is charged with nitrogen. Since the gas is compressible, when you hit a bump or something, the fluid side is allowed to expand (via the diaphragm) into the nitro side. Hence, absorbed bump.

You have to figure out the right settings for your accumulators though. It depends on your driving style. If you like to ride low, then it needs to be a little tighter to keep you from bottoming out. If you raise your car up to factory height when driving then you can make them a little softer to get more shock absorption.

You also have to consider weather conditions. My winter pressure is different from my summer pressure. I ride at 300#/front, 250#/rear during the summer and 225#/front, 175#/rear during the winter. This takes into consideration fluid thickening in cold weather plus the prussure drop of gases in cold weather.

But regardless of all of that, I think the best part of my hydraulic system are the accumulators and I could never do juice without them at this point. Tell me, why are you switching to a juiced ride instead of sticking with air?

 

[aircraft_dump_man]

thats not a real accumulator a real accumulator has a piston in it and looks like a cylinder are tube you can you use it for more than making your car ride smooth??????? does anyone know the answer aircraft hydraulics 101

 

[JuicedGrandAm]

Can piston accumulators be used to get a better ride, though? I think piston accumulators look much better.

 

[BOUNCIN89MERC2LOW97LHS]

Originally posted by aircraft_dump_man@Dec 3 2003, 02:31 PM
thats not a real accumulator a real accumulator has a piston in it and looks like a cylinder are tube you can you use it for more than making your car ride smooth??????? does anyone know the answer aircraft hydraulics 101

Not a real accumulator? You're kidding, right?

There are many different types of accumulators, including diaphragm, bladder, AND piston-types.

Try looking up industial accumulators... used in liquid as well as gas applications. That's not "Aircraft Hydraulics 101", try "Pipe Design 101."



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[old_school_48]

i'm still sticking with air but i have never had a juiced ride before and i would like to get into hydraulics with my company so i can build all types of lowriders instead of just bags and steel drops

 

[aircraft_dump_man]

boucin89 you don't know shit so don't come in hear tryin to tell me something about accumulators
piston accumulators are the best those bladder one's
bust because metal pieces can puncture them it's like using a ballon and to you can't use a bladder type to make your car hop higher why don't you go hang out with bubba sparxx are something and go travel some lone dark dusty roads idiot

 

[air280]

...............true, piston accs are higher quality, but to say "bladder accs burst" is plain stupid.
Does anyone try to make their ride "hop higher" with bladder accs...........doubt it, they are there to smooth out the ride

 

[BOUNCIN89MERC2LOW97LHS]

Originally posted by aircraft_dump_man@Dec 4 2003, 03:35 AM
boucin89 you don't know shit so don't come in hear tryin to tell me something about accumulators
piston accumulators are the best those bladder one's
bust because metal pieces can puncture them it's like using a ballon and to you can't use a bladder type to make your car hop higher why don't you go hang out with bubba sparxx are something and go travel some lone dark dusty roads idiot

In the post that I responded to, I was countering the fact that you said that "piston accumulators are the only real accumulators." In that case, that is an incorrect statement. And from your previous post, seeing that you're the self-proclaimed reigning "King of Accumulators," I'm sure you agree that that WAS an incorrect statement.

Whether or not piston types are the BEST is just your opinion. If you had said that the first time I would not have responded because I would never argue someone's opinion.
If your only rationale for piston-types being better is because diaphragm-types "bust" when "metal pieces" puncture them, you should come up with a new one. There shouldn't be any metal shavings in your system. It's almost like telling a doctor that a Sawzall is better for amputating someone's leg 'cause it cuts faster. :uh:

I don't have bladder type accumulators, I have diaphragm. And I also never mentioned anything about using an accumulator to make a car hop higher.

And what does hanging out with Bubba Sparxx and travelling down long dusty roads have to do with accumulators?

And last but not least, since whether or not I'm an idiot is just your opinion, again, I won't even try to argue with you on that.



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[BOUNCIN89MERC2LOW97LHS]

Originally posted by JuicedGrandAm@Dec 3 2003, 02:45 PM
Can piston accumulators be used to get a better ride, though? I think piston accumulators look much better.

Yes, they can be used to adjust ride quality.