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after being dead for almost 9 months, here's some aircraft hydraulic valves/clones

What we have here is n.o. BIG GREEN, and five machined clones of the big green. The slow downs are dual threads, inside and out. I'm telling ya, just like Jason, I'm going to start listing first on my site. My contact is alive and well, I thought he passed away in the hospital. I can't use these machined valves are just paperweights. --------- I like the n.c. big greens as you can move the lever to release the pressurized fluid to return back to the tank. I highly suggest you to use combo check/slowdown valves. If your lock up you can just turn a knob and the pressure goes back into the tank. GAR and standard Parkers are good, but are limited if something goes wrong with your setup. Instead use the Parker combo valves.---------- On the big green I will take it apart and show you how a n.o. and n.c. look for the big greens. I know of a machine shop that can then make me dozens of plungers and I will print out or video on how to convert n.o. to n.c. Info will only be on my site.
 

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10 volt pesco 280

What a find, a 10-11 volt 280 Pesco. What is nice is the cable is still attached. will sandblast and paint later. You only need one battery. Two would be like 48 VDC going to the motor,
 

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OG condition...right out of the aircraft!! Nice find
 

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Lets start a new thread..no more bullshit! I apologize for all the Drama in the other thread...IGNORE THE NEGATIVE POSTS! I need the serious Aircraft Enthusiasts in this thread. THANKS IN ADVANCE!


I will start out with FIREFLY"S set up since we fucked up his thread!






here is some random pics I have saved.....














I don't care for the photobucket logo on my pics, once I figure this site out I'll upload a pic from my files.
 

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I don't care for the photobucket logo on my pics, once I figure this site out I'll upload a pic from my files.
I tried to register for the square dump website but it said I was spam... looking to gather as much knowledge about aircraft setup's as possible.
 

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Doubt I will get the info I used to get from this site in the 2000s but I have some questions. I wasn’t looking an aircraft setup and always wondered. Can you 3 wheel with an aircraft setup? Do you need to reinforce the frame when doing a aircraft setup? Lemme know. Got a 64 SS rag it would go in
 

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Doubt I will get the info I used to get from this site in the 2000s but I have some questions. I wasn’t looking an aircraft setup and always wondered. Can you 3 wheel with an aircraft setup? Do you need to reinforce the frame when doing a aircraft setup? Lemme know. Got a 64 SS rag it would go in
Ive seen cars 3 wheel with pescos but its rare. Aircraft is usually someone who appreciates the mechanics behind hydraulics and the era when aircraft was the only way. 3 wheeling is easier and more common with lift gates but it is possible.

I would wrap any lowrider frame, why build something half ass'd. Even if I had air ride... I'm wrapping my frame in case I one day want to add more power to it. Do it rite from the beginning. If its a rag you dont want to risk it.

Technically aircraft doesn't need a wrapped frame, the front end wont come off the ground and 3 wheeling isnt something that really happens. Aircraft is to lay it on the ground and to make it a ridable height. Its just the exact opposite of air, I think when you depressurizea line it sounds like trash but going up or down on aircraft sounds great. Want to really hear the sound throw a EQ on it will sound like music to everyone's ears.
 

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What kind of coils do a lot of aircraft guys run on impalas? 2 tons up front and 1 tons in the rear? 1 tons all the way around or 1 tons up front and stock coils in the rear?
That makes me bring up a question... what kind of ride would a cut 66 impala have with 1 tons up front and stock front coils in the rear? Would it be too bouncy? I currently have some 1 tons that I was gonna put in the rear when my car is cut. Was gonna put 2 tons up front but I just wonder how 1 tons and stock coils ride. My car will have a regular set up, not aircraft.
 

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PESCO EQS- $250
catch jars $65
777 NOS end caps-$40
777 terminal boxes with lids - $30
#10 zigzags m/m - $200
#6 zigzag f/f- $100


Rooster pump heads- $500 ea
Rooster complete- $1000 ea

eemco bellback with stratopower choice- $1000 ea
eemco green box w' stratopower 3000psi heads $300ea

adel bike setups $100 complete

filters- $15 to $25 ea

yellow 14" tanks- $65

prices can change at anytime- parts all on hand ready to ship-very limited!!!!


www.rollinaround.com
Need a 10 year later updated price list
 

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This info is taken from squaredump.com and I would like to thank Tony for this info. I really want to inform some of the newcomers so that they will be interested in AIRCAFT HYDRAULICS.

So I really want to keep this topic drama free and make it a useful information source for us all. Thanks again to Tony, for this great info. :cool:


here is a link to his site!
http://squaredump.com/data/index.php?PHPSE...7186&topic=28.0



Of the many valves and pumps shown, all can in some way be used in Lowriders. Most valves are rated at 3,000 PSI, most pumps are rated at 1,200 PSI

You will see valves rated at 1,500 and some pumps rated as little as 800 PSI.

Most aircraft pumps used in Lowriders are medium pressure pumps, rated at 1,200 to 1,500 PSI. There are a few high pressure pumps rated at approx. 3,000 PSI.

Most Lowrider pumps (lifegate type), sold to Lowriders are approx. 3,000 to 5,000 PSI range.

When using medium pressure aircraft pumps, attention must be given to the overall design of the system. Cylinders, and weight of the vehicle all play a part, as well as the use of the set up. Hopping on medium pressure aircraft pumps is not advised, but for show, they will work.

You can use a 1,000 PSI pump, 1,500 PSI valve and large diameter cylinders on the rear of a car. It will work. Slow but sure. A 1 1/2 inch diameter cylinder at 1000 PSI can lift (in theory) 4,719 pounds. The average car weights about that, unless you add the batteries and passengers.

The key to the system is the weigh of the car and cylinder diameter. If you are looking for speed, then a 3,000 PSI pump at 2.0 HP and 2.0 GPM just might be more desirable.

What I will try to list is pumps and valves that will work for show. There are the old favorites 280 and 777. The reasoning behind this may be that:
1) they work
2) they are/where plentiful
3) they were some of the first pumps used in cars years ago.

One of the many reasons there are favorite or more popular pumps and valves in demand today is that they have withstood the test of time. Years ago, we used anything we could get our hands on. Price and abundance played a large part in our first setups. After a while we learned what worked and what didn't.


There are two thoughts of using aircraft hydraulics:

One school of thought is that you should only use aircraft parts that were first used in Lowriders before the use of the liftgate type pumps. That you should only use Pescos, Adel, Eemco/Stratopowers power packs. And that you must use only Adel or Hydro-aire dump valves. (There were many many other aircraft valves used at that time). You could call this the OG (or classical) look.

The other school of thought is that some riders want something different than industrial type hydraulics made only for Lowriders. And that using aircraft hydraulics is an option if you want something different and unique.

This is another reason for creating this site, to allow you to see the many different types of pumps and valves that will work. To allow you to understand that aircraft hydraulics parts need not all look the same. Many countries around the world have produced aircraft hydraulic parts, that you and I have never seen.

You may come across some people that don't understand or agree with using anything other than the named aircraft parts I have listed above. Yes those parts named above have proven though time to work and last, (unless you were a hopper). As I stated before, the parts that Lowriders used in the early days were parts that were easy and cheap to get. As time went on we learned what parts performed better or lasted longer.

Using Aircraft hydraulic pumps pretty much faded out once the liftgate type became popular. We still used any valve we could get our hands on. Unless you were a hopper, pretty much any valve rated at 3,000 PSI would work. About the only aircraft part that I know of that is suitable for hoppers is the Adel 3-port square dump. The most recognized aircraft hydraulic part used in Lowriders and hoppers. I myself used to use the Hydro-aire #16 two port N.C. valve (AKA Monster Green).

Now lets fast-forward about 20 years. More aircraft surplus parts are coming to market and these don't cost hundreds of dollars. Surplus pumps no one wants. Why? Because riders don't know about them or for some reason they are hesitant to use them. Some of these newer pumps can cost about $50.00 new! Yet I have never seen these pumps mounted in a trunk.

Once riders get over this type of thinking, three things will happen,

1) The so-called fellow Lowrider that sells over priced parts to fellow Lowriders will need to reduce their prices,

2) These unknown aircraft hydraulic parts will gain in value,

3) Riders will learn that it's cool to be different when you use hydraulic parts not seen before.


All in all, install what you like, not what you are told to like. :cool:

Read though this entire post and this is the best post hands down.
 
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