[MR FLAMBOYANT]

Originally posted by LegendsRacer66@Feb 16 2011, 01:00 PM~19885225
you sir, are truly an idiot... you asked for proof, it was provided. The Ford was featured in the magazine MONTHS before the x-sonic was at that show with it's hydros...so how about you just shut the hell up, seeing as how all you are doing now is making yourself look very stupid.

Oh, and I love how you are talking like you know them both referring to them by their first names like they are your friends...  :uh:  :uh:  :twak:  :twak:

you gettin mad huh ? :cheesy: you know you don't got no REAL proof :rofl:

 

[LunaticMark]

Originally posted by MR FLAMBOYANT@Feb 16 2011, 02:07 PM~19885268
you gettin mad huh ? :cheesy: you know you don't got no REAL proof :rofl:

mad?? no... I'm just amazed that someone like you can figure out how to even use a computer, let alone post on a forum and show how much of a retard you are...

There's the story of when X-Sonic showed the hydros, I also showed the magazine from FEBRUARY (months before memorial day) that featured the Ford with it hydros already in use and you are too narrow minded to allow the possibility that you are WRONG.

I also see that you never commented on the fact that the French had it on a car in 1952... so as I said,

IT WAS NOT A MEXICAN THAT DID IT FIRST!!!!

 

[MR FLAMBOYANT]

Originally posted by LegendsRacer66@Feb 16 2011, 01:13 PM~19885305
mad?? no... I'm just amazed that someone like you can figure out how to even use a computer, let alone post on a forum and show how much of a retard you are...

There's the story of when X-Sonic showed the hydros, I also showed the magazine from FEBRUARY (months before memorial day) that featured the Ford with it hydros already in use and you are too narrow minded to allow the possibility that you are WRONG.

I also see that you never commented on the fact that the French had it on a car in 1952... so as I said,

IT WAS NOT A MEXICAN THAT DID IT FIRST!!!!

if you got all this proof and shit then why do all the lowrider history books say ron was the first ?? as far as him being mexican who the fuck knows but his last name sounds mexican but like i said these questions need to be answered by the man himself :nicoderm:

 

[lowlowlow]

Originally posted by TATTOO-76@Feb 16 2011, 11:25 AM~19884039
He has been interviewed on tape and went into detail about the car. There are also several publications that are dated that prove his car was at a car show with hydraulics before aguirre had his vette. the new owner of the car has everything.

Do you know what other publications it was in?

Also, I wonder if Technical Lowrider "crowned" Aguirre as the first builder with hydraulics since the car disappeared in the early 60s? and didn't show up again until they interviewed him in the early 80s. I'll have to look that up.

Either way, it would be great to see both cars restored, they're both an important part of history. I don't think either builder thought they were setting a precedent for what we have today.

As far as the French "inventing" hydraulics or whatever, they obviously didn't have custom applications in mind when they came up with it. But I wonder why American builders didn't check this out back then.
http://www.citroenet.org.uk/miscellaneous/...draulics-1.html

I read in LRM that Ron has Spanish, as in European, roots and does not identify himself with Latino/Chicano Culture.


Mr. Aragon, I hope you draw the positives out of this discussion and put something together informative.

 

[lowlowlow]

Originally posted by MR FLAMBOYANT@Feb 15 2011, 01:29 PM~19876419
a mexican named mark aguirre invented the first lowrider you hillbilly piece of shit how GTFO

Worst comeback/self-ownage ever.

New sig

 

[Esoteric]

Originally posted by lowlowlow@Feb 16 2011, 04:00 PM~19886084
Do you know what other publications it was in?

Also, I wonder if Technical Lowrider "crowned" Aguirre as the first builder with hydraulics since the car disappeared in the early 60s? and didn't show up again until they interviewed him in the early 80s.  I'll have to look that up.

Either way, it would be great to see both cars restored, they're both an important part of history.  I don't think either builder thought they were setting a precedent for what we have today.

As far as the French "inventing" hydraulics or whatever, they obviously didn't have custom applications in mind when they came up with it.  But I wonder why American builders didn't check this out back then.
http://www.citroenet.org.uk/miscellaneous/...draulics-1.html

I read in LRM that Ron has Spanish, as in European, roots and does not identify himself with Latino/Chicano Culture. 
Mr. Aragon, I hope you draw the positives out of this discussion and put something together informative.

no they didnt but if you look at their system its far more practical than the systems out there today. im sure if someone has seen it sooner they wouldve used the set up not to mention shipping shit around the world wasnt as easy as it is now.

 

[Esoteric]

Originally posted by lowlowlow@Feb 16 2011, 04:06 PM~19886137
Worst comeback/self-ownage ever.

New sig

at least put his name up in it

 

[1229]

Originally posted by lowlowlow@Feb 16 2011, 06:00 PM~19886084
Do you know what other publications it was in?

i dont know of all of them. but i do know they are out there and someone who has them.

 

[1229]

Originally posted by MR FLAMBOYANT@Feb 16 2011, 03:45 PM~19885109
the dates in the mag don't mean shit though for real, those are just dates they were featured. But i guess if we really wanna know someone needs to get both Ron and Jim together and interview them both. But until then this is where it is according to wiki

the whole ignorance behind saying someone SCAVENGED parts from a B-52 in 1959 is worse than all the misinformation surrounding who lifted the first car put together.



are people really that stupid???????

 

[A TODA MADRE]

WHo gives a fuck.. neither of them cars was a lowrider.. so what they wasn't Chicano either.. Hydros didn't become koo until Chicanos used them in Lowriders and made them mainstream anyways.. my 2 cents..

 

[Esoteric]

Originally posted by ogbrkboy@Feb 16 2011, 04:56 PM~19886528
WHo gives a fuck.. neither of them cars was a lowrider.. so what they wasn't Chicano either.. Hydros didn't become koo until Chicanos used them in Lowriders and made them mainstream anyways.. my 2 cents..

lowriding wasnt even lowriding when it started

 

[A TODA MADRE]

Originally posted by Esoteric@Feb 16 2011, 03:57 PM~19886542
lowriding wasnt even lowriding when it started

says who? you? Lowriding is the most recognizable form of auto customizing ever homie.. ever.. all the other ones get mixed up, hot rods, kustoms, street rods, rat rods.. all the same shit, but lowriding is always lowriding. since they was rollin old chevys wearing zoot suits..

 

[azmobn06]

Originally posted by MR FLAMBOYANT+Feb 16 2011, 11:28 AM~19884061-->

yeah without proof we really don't have nothing  :uh:
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<!--QuoteBegin-LegendsRacer66@Feb 16 2011, 11:57 AM~19884269
Here are the images from the Feb Issue that the car was in.

That looks like proof to me...

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

DR DRE INVENTED HYDRAULICS, DAYTONS, 16 SWITCHES AND LOWRIDERS. I SAW IT ON BET, SO ITS GOTTA BE DA TRUFF.

 

[milkbone]

Originally posted by BRADFORD@Feb 16 2011, 02:35 PM~19884114

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

 

[RdnLow63]

Feb 1959

 

[peter cruz]

Originally posted by RdnLow63@Feb 16 2011, 05:45 PM~19886945

Feb 1959

Looks like proof to me that the first lifted ride was a Ford and again from the City of Long Beach, California.

 

[Esoteric]

Originally posted by ogbrkboy@Feb 16 2011, 05:02 PM~19886579
says who? you?  Lowriding is the most recognizable form of auto customizing ever homie.. ever.. all the other ones get mixed up, hot rods, kustoms, street rods, rat rods.. all the same shit, but lowriding is always lowriding.  since they was rollin old chevys wearing zoot suits..

you bought into that hype hook line and sinker

 

[RdnLow63]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachm...03&d=1291173903

 

[78paco]

Originally posted by MR FLAMBOYANT+Feb 15 2011, 01:29 PM~19876419-->

a mexican named mark aguirre invented the first lowrider you hillbilly piece of shit how GTFO
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<!--QuoteBegin-MR FLAMBOYANT@Feb 15 2011, 01:43 PM~19876515
i meant Ron aguirre my bad, but the point was a mexican invented lowriders. that tattoo bitch is always tryin to say some white guy invented em. What the fuck does he know 

:loco:

who gives a shit if the 1st guy to use hydros on a car wasn't mexican. have u even seen ron aquirre.. he's white.. his last name must be european .. spanish/portugese or sum shit..

ignorant pple like you give lowriders a bad name..