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HOW LONG SHOULD ONE WAIT AFTER HE GETS A BRAND NEW PAINT JOB BEFORE ONE GOES FOR WETSAND?
 

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depends on the paint. some paint jobs get wet sanded the same day (with bake booths), or the next day...some paint jobs sit for a year, or 2..................or 3 or 4, before they get wet sanded.











depends on the paint job, and the car. but in most cases, its done within 24-48 hours after the final coat of clear.
 

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Originally posted by TATTOO-76@Oct 2 2007, 06:01 PM~8917980
depends on the paint. some paint jobs get wet sanded the same day (with bake booths), or the next day...some paint jobs sit for a year, or 2..................or 3 or 4, before they get wet sanded.
depends on the paint job, and the car. but in most cases, its done within 24-48 hours after the final coat of clear.

DOES IT REALLY SHOW A BIG DIFFERENCE?
 

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Originally posted by tearazz@Oct 2 2007, 07:02 PM~8917991
DOES IT REALLY SHOW A BIG DIFFERENCE?
depends on the paint...



some of the BADDEST paint jobs you will ever see on a lowrider, actually sat for over a year before it was cut. Alot of intricate multi stage (and multi chemical) paint jobs NEED to sit and shrink before they are cut.


Im sure some people WILL NOT agree, but it depends on who you know, who you learn from, and how good the person teaching you is.



There is also a HUGE difference between a simple base/clear/single color candy paint job compared to a multi color, multi base, flake, pearl, pattern, pin stripe, etc etc paint job. And even then, a solid black car can benefit from letting the paint shrink several months before its cut and buffed. And again, Im sure some people would argue with that. Its like I said, it all depends on WHAT the paint job is. 90% of all paint jobs can be cut and buffed the day after they are sprayed. Some can be cut and buffed the same day, but some of the baddest paint jobs out there have sat a year or longer before they were wet sanded and buffed out.
 

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HOW DO I LOCATE A WET SANDER? DO I GO TO MY LOCAL BODY SHOP AND ASK AROUND!!!
 

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Originally posted by tearazz@Oct 2 2007, 05:37 PM~8918200
HOW DO I LOCATE A WET SANDER? DO I GO TO MY LOCAL BODY SHOP AND ASK AROUND!!!
Look around and find someone with experience cuttin & buffin. try the local bodyshops. and like tattoo 76 said, it really depends on what you are trying to achieve, what paint products where used, etc.
 

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i detail and cut and buff cars for a living and on your average bc/cc paint job i usually have the customer wait 3-4 months before i cut and buff. that gives the paint a decent amount of time to cure. because anytime before that as TATTOO stated paint can shrink. ive never done a multi colored or flaked, patterned car. but im sure the more material that is in a paint job the more time it needs to cure. if your car is just a bc/cc id wait a few months then cut and buff it.
 

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youll learn a lil from each person,i myself like to give it a month before cutr n buff,due to shrinkage,and or paint flaws,others want there cars done as soon as the paint is cured,(daily drivers) where you located? and whos painting it or painted it? how many coats of clear? custom paint?
 

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Originally posted by pinche chico@Oct 3 2007, 07:15 AM~8922132
youll learn a lil from each person,i myself like to give it a month before cutr n buff,due to shrinkage,and or paint flaws,others want there cars done as soon as the paint is cured,(daily drivers) where you located? and whos painting it or painted it? how many coats of clear? custom paint?
well im basically getting a basic 1 color paint job from my local shop in newark NJ: but i wanted to do something extra like a wetsand job, THERES A SPECIAL RUNNING that i wanna take advantage of!


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Originally posted by Badass94Cad@Oct 3 2007, 12:16 PM~8923707
What shop in Newark?  I'm just up the road a piece... :cool:

DO YOU WET SAND? OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO?
 

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Originally posted by TATTOO-76@Oct 2 2007, 07:12 PM~8918073
depends on the paint...
some of the BADDEST paint jobs you will ever see on a lowrider, actually sat for over a year before it was cut. Alot of intricate multi stage (and multi chemical) paint jobs NEED to sit and shrink before they are cut.
Im sure some people WILL NOT agree, but it depends on who you know, who you learn from, and how good the person teaching you is.
There is also a HUGE difference between a simple base/clear/single color candy paint job compared to a multi color, multi base, flake, pearl, pattern, pin stripe, etc etc paint job. And even then, a solid black car can benefit from letting the paint shrink several months before its cut and buffed. And again, Im sure some people would argue with that. Its like I said, it all depends on WHAT the paint job is. 90% of all paint jobs can be cut and buffed the day after they are sprayed. Some can be cut and buffed the same day, but some of the baddest paint jobs out there have sat a year or longer before they were wet sanded and buffed out.

That is great info.. It is true you can cut and buff almost any of todays urethanes the very next morning after spraying.. BUT as pointed out above.. THEY WILL SHRINK!!!
I dont care who you are, or what paints you use, they all shrink some.. When doing show cars, they get cut and buffed a few weeks after I paint them.. With the clear cut the day after spraying and then they set in the sun for a couple weeks to pull out the solvents without the top layer of film holding in the gasses..

EVEN WITH THIS PROCEDURE, THEY STILL SHRINK!!!!! Its best to do a Final buffing" 6 months to 1 year after it has been painted and had plenty of time to set in the sun to pull out the remaning tail solvents and finish curing..

A final note: The more layers of paint you apply the greater the amount of shrinkage and die back (loss of gloss) you CAN have
 

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Originally posted by tearazz@Oct 3 2007, 04:54 PM~8925245
yeah thanks....but i just need a shop to take my car and get it done....anywhere in the NYC or N.J. area
i recomend haveing the same shop do a car start to finish, if you have one shop for paint and take it somewhere else to wet wetsanded and if it burns thru the wetsand guy will blame the painter for not putting enough paint or clear on, and the painter will blame the wetsander for sanding too much, when its all done by the same shop there is no blame game :cool:
 

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well when you cut n buff also your taking away u.v protection, but if your getting a whole deal with cut n buff then go ahead and do it,around here a good cut n buff will cost between 250-500 depending on vehicle i guess
 
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