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Im going to try to shoot some pearl graphics and im looking for any advice you painters might have on it.... is it basically the same process as shooting candy fade-away patterns? I have a pretty good understanding of shooting candy, just no experience with pearls.

I am able to get the pearl for free through a hook up, and the brand names i can get are Dimension (Western) and Omni (PPG). I was just wondering if anyone has ever used either of these? I have several different colors of each here now and im looking at them and the Dimension powder looks like the color it says on the bottle.... but the Omni powder looks beige..... why is this? I mean the green Dimension peral powder is actually green, but the green Omni powder appears beige with a light green tint.



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Oh, and i dont know if it matters or not on which brand to use... but i am going to shoot the pearl patterns over black.
 

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ok a little difficult to explain. but the off white pearls will give you the color indicated but its still the look of an actual pearl. the green like you said is more of a solid color but with a pearl look. all these pearls are used in making basecoats. you have to be very carefull spraying pearl patterns over black if you are trying to achieve a solid color because it bloches really bad if you are doing fade aways it looks great. start with a very little pearl in the clear until you get the desired look. hope this helps
 

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Thanks for the advice Jimmy, you know what im talking about, those pearl patterns like Doc is known for. So you think over black it would be better to use the Dimension stuff that is more of a solid color?

Heres a pic of what i have if this helps:

 

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yeah when i do stuff like that i just play with it i was hoping you werent trying to spray solid color. just play with it the variations are endless i say start light though
 

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Cool, i definitely am going to shoot a test panel first to practice.
 

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i never do test panel i just do it on the car and pretend thats what i wanted :biggrin:
 

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yes there are a few different types of pearl ..
some that only hit where the light reflects of them some that effect the whole car somewhat solid and some that hit one colour eq gree.. where the lights hits it -- then transmits red(opposit colour) over the rest of the colour ..
just remeber also when using pearl it easy to grey out a black base..
 

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** I have never seen the dimension pearls but , I do know that if you use too much of the PPG brand in a particular area - you tend to get the milky color from them....For instance: I painted a white celica with HOK white Ice pearls & that looked fine but the kid wanted to have a frost blue pearl in there too... He wanted alot of blue so, I painted over the white/ice pearl base & it turned the white into a "off" white color ...

I would reccomend the dimension pearls simply because they will not take away from the color from what you are painting over ....You will the desired color & not have to worry about the yellowish/cream color that the PPG has....... BOB_T
 

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sup jason-----i got your pm.....i truthfully have never used either of the pearls that you have shown or mentioned...but like everyone has said be careful using pearls on black.....you have to decide how much of the pattern do you actually want to see....if you want to see the patterns all the time then you shoot more pearl----if you want them to be like a light lazer pattern or ghost pattern then you do them very very light so that you only see them in certain light.........always start off light and slowly build up the pearl to the desired darkness-----remember that you can always make a color darker if you need too but never lighter----if you wanted it lighter then you have to start over-----also remember that depending on the type and brand of clear that you use it will darker the pearl as well------i don't use test panels that much either but if you are after a particular shade then i would try it out.........i have heard of omni before but never dimension---------like said it looks pretty solid so i would think that it would get dark very fast........you usually never want solid patterns using pearls unless you want to be able to see them all the time and depending on the color they will definately show up pretty dark on black unless you just use a "dust" method--------hope that helps out somewhat bro--------peace

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i don't have a ton of experience in this topic..but i have some.......


i shot some pearls before and all i got to say is.......i only needed to squeeze that bottle like once or twice and the pearl is pretty noticeable.........


i shot some hoods before and i like pearls but they can be tricky.....

so my 2 cents would be...shoot a test panel and be careful on the quantity you use.........this shit is tricky.....

good luck
 

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Thanks for all of the advice so far guys.... i think i can pull it off with the help you guys provided. I know nothing about pearls so any help is appreciated.

But how do you shoot the pearl? You mix clear and then add the powder to the clear right?

Here is the look i want... but actually its not going on a straight black... its going on a dark charcoal grey.... almost black.





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Originally posted by JasonJ@Oct 22 2003, 10:37 AM
Thanks for all of the advice so far guys.... i think i can pull it off with the help you guys provided. I know nothing about pearls so any help is appreciated.

But how do you shoot the pearl? You mix clear and then add the powder to the clear right?

Here is the look i want... but actually its not going on a straight black... its going on a dark charcoal grey.... almost black.

sup jason----ya you just mix it into the clear-----great patterns on that car that you showed....the hardest thing that i would say on those kind of patterns is making sure that your spray pattern width remains the same...nothing worst then seeing them go thick to thin to thick again bro...good luck---------peace
 

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the only extra advice i can give,,that no one else has,,,is make sure you mix all the pearl you will need in one batch,,do that with each color,,,because pearl is VERY hard to match, and you dont want your patterns being different colors from each other


also, are you willing to sale some of the pearls (more money for you),,,,im interested in some green pearl,,and a bit of gold
 

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also what I do Is get the quantity of pearl you want and mix it into a small quantity of thinner first then slowly add the clear that way the pearl dosn't clump together ..
 

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Originally posted by sabre@Oct 22 2003, 05:27 PM
also what I do Is get the quantity of pearl you want and mix it into a small quantity of thinner first then slowly add the clear that way the pearl dosn't clump together ..
good advice sabre----------lates
 
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