i aint blowing smoke, you need to at least see these pups. they have some of the best markings i have seen on the web. the father is out of shovel head kennels in phoenix az. the mother is out of t-bull kennels in el paso tx. both bloodline are on the web. i will take some more pics of the pups tomarrow on my phone. i could send pics with my phone. the sire of these pups is a direct grandson of juan gotti. the mother of the pups is out of t-bulls maximus. these are as quality as quality gets. we have all paper work to prove bloodlines. call fred at 9286514365 or willis at 9288651503 anytime. this is our first breeding,the future looks very promising.