[TonyO]

Originally posted by REC@Sep 19 2005, 05:50 AM~3840090
You need to come to a Texas show and see all the 16" bicycle that you have not seen

Legions has a lot of 16" bikes that haven't shown in a while. No one remembers "Lady Death" which was a blue one that I saw at Super Show 2000. Eventually they parted it out I think or changed it into Creamator. Then there was that Insatiable , and a couple others.


Whatever happened to that Jokers Wild one that was owned by that little girl? It was in LRB in Spring of 2000 I think.

 

[BigTex]

WELL SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS..........WE WILL NOT BE SHOWING AT THE SUPERSHOW. TRUST ME NO ONE WAS MORE DISAPPOINTED THAN US WHEN WE DECIDED THIS BACK IN JULY. JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.

AS FOR REALM OF FANTASY...........HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM LATELY BUT LAST I HEARD HE WASN'T GOING.

 

[toyshopcustoms]

Now why do you have to ruin the suspense. I knew you werent going but I wanted to make people think.

 

[wimone]

OK, SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. IF THE BIG THING IS "IS THE BIKE OPERATIONAL?" AND OVER THE WEEKEND I LOOKED AT WOLVERINE AND PHROPHECY, AND I NOTICED THAT WOLVERINE HAS A BATTERY ON THE BACK? AND PHROPHECY HAS NONE? SO DOESN'T THAT MAKE IT IN OPERABLE? I KNOW OTHERS PROBUBLY TOUCHED ON THIS LAST YEAR OR SO BUT I WAS JUST THINING AND LOOKING AT LAST YEARS MAG. SO AS FAR AS A REMEMBER WHEN LOCO-64 WENT AGAINST LAS VEGAS THEY HAD TO PROVE LAS VEGAS WAS OPERABLE, WHY NOT PHROPHECY? I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME IS OUR BIKE RIDEALBE I SAY 100% YES! SO WHY WASN'T THIS ENFORCED? ALSO I NOTICED WHEN YOU PUT THAT WHOLE BIKE INTO PERSEPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW ONE COULD ACTUALLY OPERATE THAT BIKE, THE FRAME WOULD BREAK JUST TRYING TO GET THE CRANK THAT THE CHAIN IS HELD AGAINST THE CHAIN GUARD TO GO AROUND.......JUST A THOUGHT........

 

[Mastodon]

can you not ride bikes without batterys now?

 

[JUSTDEEZ]

HES TALKING ABOUT NEEDING THE BATTERY TO MAKE THE ELECTRIC PARTS FUNCTIONAL. YOU CANT PUT IT ON THE BIKE IF IT DOESNT WORK. WHEN LOCO64 DISPUTED LAS VEGAS'S WIN, HE HAD TO PAY THE DISPUTE FEE. IF NO ONE WANTS TO PAY THE FEE, THEN THERE IS NO DISPUTE. THE WINNER GETS TO WALK.

 

[wimone]

THATS FINE AND ALL BUT TECHNICALLY AND NOW AFTER THAT DISPUTE I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CHECK THE CARS BEFORE GOING IN. I JUST WAS THINKING THAT IF IT'S GANNA BE ON THE BIKE/CAR IT HAS TO WORK. DISPUTE MONEY OR NOT. WHY PUT 10,000 INTO A STEREO SYSTEM JUST FOR LOOKS?
AND AGAIN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I STARTED SO THAT WE CAN ALL ARGUE ABOUT IT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT I MADE OVER THE WEEKEND......

 

[LIL PHX]

My understanding is that if it's on your bike it has to work.

 

[BigTex]

WELL I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING.........HOW CAN YOU GET POINTS FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK??

WELL THERE ARE NO RULES THAT COVER THE OPERABILITY OF THE ACCESSORIES ON A BIKE. FOR EXAMPLE, HYDROS.......STEREO SYSTEMS OR EVEN SPEEDOMETERS......THE ONLY RULE OF OPERABILITY IS THE OPERABLILT OF THE BIKE ITSELF.

I KNOW IN YEARS PAST THEY USED TO MAKE YOU TURN THE CRANK TO SHOW IT WORKS AND TURN THE HANDLEBARS SIDE TO SIDE TO SHOW IT CAN TURN. ONLY ONCE HAVE I SEEN THEM MAKE A PERSON RIDE THE BIKE........THAT WAS THE STORM BIKE THAT ANGUS HAD TO RIDE.

THE JUDGES HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO TO HOW POINTS ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE ACCESSORIES THAT LOOK TO BE NON OPERABLE.

 

[LIL PHX]

THAT IS TRUE THE RULES STATE THE BIKE OR TRIKE MUST BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT AND RIGHT AND MUST BE ABLE TO TURN THE CRANK.THERE IS NOTHING IN THE RULE BOOK THAT STATES THAT ANYTHING ELSE HAS TO WORK.

 

[wimone]

Originally posted by BigTex@Sep 19 2005, 07:28 AM~3841986
WELL I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING.........HOW CAN YOU GET POINTS FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK??

WELL THERE ARE NO RULES THAT COVER THE OPERABILITY OF THE ACCESSORIES ON A BIKE.  FOR EXAMPLE, HYDROS.......STEREO SYSTEMS OR EVEN SPEEDOMETERS......THE ONLY RULE OF OPERABILITY IS THE OPERABLILT OF THE BIKE ITSELF.

I KNOW IN YEARS PAST THEY USED TO MAKE YOU TURN THE CRANK TO SHOW IT WORKS AND TURN THE HANDLEBARS SIDE TO SIDE TO SHOW IT CAN TURN.  ONLY ONCE HAVE I SEEN THEM MAKE A PERSON RIDE THE BIKE........THAT WAS THE STORM BIKE THAT ANGUS HAD TO RIDE.

THE JUDGES HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO TO HOW POINTS ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE ACCESSORIES THAT LOOK TO BE NON OPERABLE.

I SEE YOUR POINT BUT WHEN "EXCALIBER" WENT AGAINST LIVING LENGEND, THE JUDGE MADE HIM TURN EVERYTHING ON EVEN THE PLAY STATIONS. AND SAME THIS YEAR WHEN HE FINALLY BEAT HIM.......... SO COOL, C-YA IN VEGAS.

 

[BigTex]

Originally posted by wimone@Sep 19 2005, 09:53 AM~3842108
I SEE YOUR POINT BUT WHEN "EXCALIBER" WENT AGAINST LIVING LENGEND, THE JUDGE MADE HIM TURN EVERYTHING ON EVEN THE PLAY STATIONS. AND SAME THIS YEAR WHEN HE FINALLY BEAT HIM.......... SO COOL, C-YA IN VEGAS.

I THINK IT WAS IN 2003 THE JUDGES MADE US TEST THE HANDBRAKES ON THE BIKE. HE ALSO WANTED TO SEE THE HYDROS WORK SINCE THE LINES RAN THROUGH THE BODY.........BUT THE BATTERY WAS WEAK BUT HE JUST FOLLOWED THE LINES AND SAW THAT EVERYTHING WAS CONNECTED PROPERLY.

SO EXCALIBUR WILL BE IN VEGAS?

 

[wimone]

COOL, LIKE I SAID I WAS JUST THINKING AND ALSO MAYBE BECAUSE I STILL DON'T LIKE THAT BIKE IS WHY I GOT SO CRITICAL, BUT NO EXCALIBER WON'T BE, THEY HAVE OTHER FAMILY ARRANGMENTS THAT THEY ARE COMMITED TO. BESIDES HE GOT HIS TROPHY/CHECK, HE BEAT FREDDY!!!! THAT'S ALL HE NEEDS.. CASE CLOSED..
C-YA

 

[TonyO]

Originally posted by BigTex@Sep 19 2005, 04:31 PM~3841634
WELL SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS..........WE WILL NOT BE SHOWING AT THE SUPERSHOW.  TRUST ME NO ONE WAS MORE DISAPPOINTED THAN US WHEN WE DECIDED THIS BACK IN JULY.  JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.

AS FOR REALM OF FANTASY...........HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM LATELY BUT LAST I HEARD HE WASN'T GOING.

*sniff* *sniff* I smell some mighty strong stanky ass BS :roflmao:

That trike would want nothing more than to take the title this year man. Ever since he got his Sebestian trophy last year and left X Trike in the dust he has the fever. I'm sure gas prices, hurricaines, whatever won't stop him from going :biggrin:

 

[TonyO]

Originally posted by BigTex@Sep 19 2005, 06:28 PM~3841986
WELL I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING.........HOW CAN YOU GET POINTS FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK??

WELL THERE ARE NO RULES THAT COVER THE OPERABILITY OF THE ACCESSORIES ON A BIKE.  FOR EXAMPLE, HYDROS.......STEREO SYSTEMS OR EVEN SPEEDOMETERS......THE ONLY RULE OF OPERABILITY IS THE OPERABLILT OF THE BIKE ITSELF.

I KNOW IN YEARS PAST THEY USED TO MAKE YOU TURN THE CRANK TO SHOW IT WORKS AND TURN THE HANDLEBARS SIDE TO SIDE TO SHOW IT CAN TURN.  ONLY ONCE HAVE I SEEN THEM MAKE A PERSON RIDE THE BIKE........THAT WAS THE STORM BIKE THAT ANGUS HAD TO RIDE.

THE JUDGES HAVE THE FINAL SAY SO TO HOW POINTS ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE ACCESSORIES THAT LOOK TO BE NON OPERABLE.

True and this is possibly why "Craftsmanship" was added into the mix. I think that's like 10 points isn't it? So if you have something on the bike that is just for looks and doesn't function it may cost you craftsmanship points. So that category is probably the judges fallback category when coming up against a decision on who to give a trophy to. If you got a bike that has everything operating versus a bike with more accessories but nothing works then that's where craftsmanship may come into play. :dunno: Just a guess there but I'd imagine that's how it works.