[CuttieBuddie]

alright guys, i feel like a dumbass but i dont know WHAT im doing wroing...

i have 05kicker ks 6x9 in the doors wired to a poweracoustik 300watt amplifier...


for the stock wiring, i just slid the plastic cover over the terminal crimps and wrapped electrical tape around them so they do not come into contact with anything....

i ran 16guage from the speakers to the amplifier... i have an 8guage power and ground connected to the amplifier as well... for some reason, the amplifier goes into protection mode when ever i play the door speakers at a moderate level... the amplifier is rated at 70watts x 2 at 4ohms, and my door speakers can handle 70watts RMS each (they are 4ohm)...when i check out the amp, it was hot as hell so i figured that the amp is overheating and maybe im demanding too much from it.... so i connected my 6x9's up to my other amplifier that does 200w x 2 @ 4ohms, that amp went into protection mode as well!!!

when i connect the amps up to the subwoofer, its fine, no problem....

the amp im using is POW 300w poweracoustik amplifier for the door speakers

i tried the gothic series 820watt poweracoustik amp and that went into protection mode as well...

once again, i am using 16 guage from the amp to the door speakers, HELP IS DEFINETLY NEEDED....


-qs

 

[Brahma Brian]

Sounds like you have a short on a speaker wire or speaker terminal...

It also could be a bad coil in one of the by nines...

If you tried the same amp wired to the same power wires on the sub and it didn't go into protection, thats all it can be is the speaker wires or the speakers...

Not to mention you tried a different amp and it did the same thing...

Have you tested the ohm load at the amp to MAKE SURE you are running it at 4ohms?

 

[CuttieBuddie]

Originally posted by Brahma Brian@Aug 27 2005, 04:33 PM~3703813
Sounds like you have a short on a speaker wire or speaker terminal...

It also could be a bad coil in one of the by nines...

If you tried the same amp wired to the same power wires on the sub and it didn't go into protection, thats all it can be is the speaker wires or the speakers...

Not to mention you tried a different amp and it did the same thing...

Have you tested the ohm load at the amp to MAKE SURE you are running it at 4ohms?

no , i havent tested to see what ohm load going to the amp... the speakers are 4ohm and i wired it positive to positive and negative to negative so i imagined it could only be placing a 4ohm load at each channel.... even if it were placing a 2 ohm load on the amp i would be safe because the amp is 2ohm stereo.... im thinking it could be the speaker wire (im hoping its not the speakers itself)...

a short in the speaker wire would cause the amp to overheat like that? ...

im going to first make sure that the wires are connected solid to the speakers...
of the problem continues then i'll put in my set of rockfords to see its the speaker wires, if the probel m continues then i will change the speaker wire to 18 guage and see what happens....


thanx for the info....

-qs

 

[Loganite]

good luck withthat

 

[CuttieBuddie]

Originally posted by Brahma Brian@Aug 27 2005, 04:33 PM~3703813
Sounds like you have a short on a speaker wire or speaker terminal...

It also could be a bad coil in one of the by nines...

If you tried the same amp wired to the same power wires on the sub and it didn't go into protection, thats all it can be is the speaker wires or the speakers...

Not to mention you tried a different amp and it did the same thing...

Have you tested the ohm load at the amp to MAKE SURE you are running it at 4ohms?

could it be the guage wire im using brahma? am i only suppose to use 18 guage with speakers???

-qs

 

[Brahma Brian]

Originally posted by CuttieBuddie@Aug 28 2005, 08:39 AM~3706494
could it be the guage wire im using brahma? am i only suppose to use 18 guage with speakers???

-qs

No, that's not it at all... 14-18ga will be fine...

You have other issues...

 

[CuttieBuddie]

Originally posted by Brahma Brian@Aug 28 2005, 11:02 AM~3706820
No, that's not it at all... 14-18ga will be fine...

You have other issues... 

alright, i went out and bought 18 guage wire that had a nice amount of insulation to protect it, im getting ready to go out now and swap the wires, being that you brought that up, i got a strong feeling that when i was pulling the wire through the door jam, that i was stripping it at the same time (becuase you know how the negative and postive wire are normally stuck side by side) the wires were comming out from the other side seperated.... :uh: im grounding out somewhere in the speaker wire...

why didnt i think that was a problem?, i dunno... i was out in the middle of hurricane katrina when i installed it, (the "eye" had passed over my area)

i lack patience when it comes to car audio...

thank for the help brahma...

-qs

 

[Brahma Brian]

Originally posted by CuttieBuddie@Aug 28 2005, 03:09 PM~3707670
alright, i went out and bought 18 guage wire that had a nice amount of insulation to protect it, im getting ready to go out now and swap the wires, being that you brought that up, i got a strong feeling that when i was pulling the wire through the door jam, that i was stripping it at the same time (becuase you know how the negative and postive wire are normally stuck side by side) the wires were comming out from the other side serperated....  :uh:

why didnt i think that was a problem?, i dunno... i was out in the middle of hurricane katrina when i installed it, (the "eye" had passed over my area)

i lack patience when it comes to car audio...

thank for the help brahma...

-qs

Yup, there's your problem, you can bet...

I don't help anyone, quit your fibbin' fool! :twak:

 

[CuttieBuddie]

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

how about the wire had got caught inbetween the magnet of the 6x9 and the grid that the window rolls down into(when you roll the window down), i guess after a couple window roll downs and doors opening and closing, it finally cut through the wire cover and go to the wire... the speaker wire was grounding itself...

case closed...

-qs

 

[Brahma Brian]

Originally posted by CuttieBuddie+Aug 29 2005, 04:36 PM~3713815-->

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

how about the wire had got caught inbetween the magnet of the 6x9 and the grid that the window rolls down into(when you roll the window down), i guess after a couple window roll downs and doors opening and closing, it finally cut through the wire cover and go to the wire... the speaker wire was grounding itself...

case closed...

-qs
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:0 I wouldn't have guessed in a million years! :0

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<!--QuoteBegin-Brahma Brian@Aug 27 2005, 04:33 PM~3703813
Sounds like you have a short on a speaker wire or speaker terminal...

 

[CuttieBuddie]

Originally posted by Brahma Brian@Aug 29 2005, 07:30 PM~3715047
:0  I wouldn't have guessed in a million years!  :0

Post #2 of this thread... 

i wish i had a dollar for every smart ass remark you make

but then again, if i did, i would have my custom air ride set-up installed and running uffin:

-qs

 

[Brahma Brian]

Originally posted by CuttieBuddie@Aug 29 2005, 08:58 PM~3715665
i wish i had a dollar for every smart ass remark you make 

but then again, if i did,  i would have my custom air ride set-up installed and running  uffin:

-qs

You love me, just admit it... :cheesy: