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oh man, i wish i had pics, but any ways my uncle owns his own body shop, and one of these guys from a dealer ship only wanted to pay my uncle 80 dollars to fix a rear 1/4 panel that had a nice size dent in it and needed painted so they could sell it quick, so any ways i guess my uncle just cut out where the dent was after he pulled it out so far, wadded up some news paper and shoved it in the hole, and bondoed right over it. i guess thats what they get for tryin to low ball him