[LOWRIDER3]

I have a 84 oldsmobile cutlass and I have a good amount of rust under the car and I cant seem to get the car done like I want too. I need to know what do u guys think I should do? How did u go about taking care of the rust under your car? Every time I look under my car I say to myself what did I get myself in too. I myself don't have money to pay someone to get it done. So I need info on what to do

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Anybody?

 

[klownin530]

did it rot thru..?how bad is it..?

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Originally posted by klownin530@May 24 2011, 05:04 PM~20621022
did it rot thru..?how bad is it..?

Some areas look fine but I cant tell untill I get the rust all off

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Ok today I took some of my parts to my sandblaster guy and he told me after I get my parts back from him. He said just to sand it down with 220 grit so I can put a coat of primer on it. Does that sound right to u guys? And wouldn't u have to hit it with a different kind of paint before the primer? Just because it had rust all over the metal? Or should I be fine with just a coat of primer then after the first coat throw some filler primer?

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Anybody?

 

[elspock84]

get some por15. ive never used it but i hear its some good shit.

http://www.stoprust.net/

 

[joeycutlass]

just rattle can some paint. take your time lay it down smooth. 6 inches away from area your spraying and tape around were you don't want overspray


any rustoleum can will do

 

[Hoss805]

Originally posted by joeycutlass@May 25 2011, 09:37 PM~20630890
just rattle can some paint. take your time lay it down smooth. 6 inches away from area your spraying and tape around were you don't want overspray
any rustoleum can will do

:uh: DONT DO THAT. EPOXY is your best bet, but lets see some pictures first
any primer besides an epoxy primer suck up moisture, the Talc in the primers is what sucks up the water.you can seal with epoxy primer and then spray some type of bedliner material over it, i seen some in an areol can, but dont know how good it is compare to the activated bedliner coating

 

[KAKALAK]

use Ospho then 2k primer or try epoxy or POR-15. But after its sand blasted it should remove the rust so you can go right to por 15 or epoxy. I take it your body is still on the frame so you might have to use por15 so you can brush it on.

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Originally posted by KAKALAK@May 26 2011, 08:18 AM~20632725
use Ospho then 2k primer or try epoxy or POR-15. But after its sand blasted it should remove the rust so you can go right to por 15 or epoxy. I take it your body is still on the frame so you might have to use por15 so you can brush it on.

Ok thanks for the help. I was thinking of using Du Pont Epoxy Primer. Do u think that will be good to use? And the ony reason why I want to use the Du Pont is that it's mixed already and I just have to put it through the strainer.

 

[newagecustoms65]

Dupont doesn't make a RTS (ready to spray) Epoxy. In fact, nobody does. Epoxy is a two part system that has to be catalized. The chemical reaction is what makes it dry. If your local paint shop told you different, you need to find a different paint shop to deal with. Now, Dupont does make a good epoxy primer, but I prefer PPG DP series epoxy. They come in several different colors. Also the new House of Kolor KD3000 is awesome stuff, but since it just came out it may be hard to get ahold of. If you just want to get out on the cheap, I would try Nason two part epoxy, its cheap and not pure junk. Let me know if you got anymore questions.

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Originally posted by newagecustoms65@May 26 2011, 05:31 PM~20636117
Dupont doesn't make a RTS (ready to spray) Epoxy. In fact, nobody does. Epoxy is a two part system that has to be catalized. The chemical reaction is what makes it dry. If your local paint shop told you different, you need to find a different paint shop to deal with. Now, Dupont does make a good epoxy primer, but I prefer PPG DP series epoxy. They come in several different colors. Also the new House of Kolor KD3000 is awesome stuff, but since it just came out it may be hard to get ahold of. If you just want to get out on the cheap, I would try Nason two part epoxy, its cheap and not pure junk. Let me know if you got anymore questions.

Thanks for the info. I think right now I would like to still go with Du Pont Epoxy Primer. Only because I can get it fast and I can get it at a good price. What do u mix it with and how would I know how much to mix it with?

 

[newagecustoms65]

Originally posted by LOWRIDER3@May 26 2011, 08:19 PM~20636450
Thanks for the info. I think right now I would like to still go with Du Pont Epoxy Primer. Only because I can get it fast and I can get it at a good price. What do u mix it with and how would I know how much to mix it with?

Depending where you are it will probably be 25x0S DTM series (2510S white, 2540S gray, 2570S black, 2580CR zinc chromate). The catalyst you use is 2505S. The mix ratio is 2 parts epoxy to 1 part catalyst.
If you're in Cali it will probably be V-29x0S DTM with the same numbering system for color shades. It has the same mix ratio, but the catalyst is 2905S instead.

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Originally posted by newagecustoms65@May 26 2011, 08:24 PM~20637673
Depending where you are it will probably be 25x0S DTM series (2510S white, 2540S gray, 2570S black, 2580CR zinc chromate). The catalyst you use is 2505S. The mix ratio is 2 parts epoxy to 1 part catalyst.
If you're in Cali it will probably be V-29x0S DTM with the same numbering system for color shades. It has the same mix ratio, but the catalyst is 2905S instead.

I stay in Woodstock IL. Now those first numbers u show are those for the DuPont Epoxy Primer? And where can I get the catalyst?

 

[SWITCHCRAFT]

not to be mean but you need some sort of guidance in this, do you have a friend who is a painter maybe?

we can tell you things all day and give you advice on here but it's going to be tough for you to understand....

rust repair is not to be taken lightly IF you want it done right.....

have a look at these tutorials..

http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=210994

 

[newagecustoms65]

Originally posted by LOWRIDER3@May 26 2011, 10:28 PM~20637714
I stay in Woodstock IL. Now those first numbers u show are those for the DuPont Epoxy Primer? And where can I get the catalyst?

Metro Paint Supplies
4901 Prime Pky
McHenry, IL 60050-7016
(815) 759-1612

That is the closest Dupont dealer to you. I would give them a call and talk about what you are trying to do and see what they suggest. Also if you go with the 2540S DTM, ask them for PDS sheets on it. It will tell you everything about the product.

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Just got some of my parts back from the sandblaster. Let me know what I can do about the spots where the rust started to eat? I will put a coat of primer on there for now. I picked up a bull shit can for $2.50 so that way the rust won't come back and it gives me some time to get some real primer.

 

[LOWRIDER3]

Originally posted by newagecustoms65@May 27 2011, 01:02 PM~20641913
Metro Paint Supplies
4901 Prime Pky
McHenry, IL 60050-7016
(815) 759-1612

That is the closest Dupont dealer to you. I would give them a call and talk about what you are trying to do and see what they suggest. Also if you go with the 2540S DTM, ask them for PDS sheets on it. It will tell you everything  about the product.

Ok thanks for the info. I will try to check them out this week

 

[KAKALAK]

a good high build primer after spraying epoxy should take care of the rust craters