[phat2600]

first off i went through 12 of them today :angry: also has anyone had a problem w, showtime switch box wire beeing to small to turn on the solenoid, the voltage drops way to low like to 15v because the wires to thin for 6 solis when i get the new accurates in im gona use another soli to turn on the 24v

 

[hydrota]

Thats what I have always done. On my s-10 I have a single solenoid turning on 12 at one time.

 

[HydroCutlass86]

how does that work? does that shut down your whole setup? like if a solenoid stick instead of useing one them welding type cut offs do you just hit a switch to shut it all off???????

 

[crazy4hydros]

Originally posted by hydrota@Sep 29 2003, 12:04 AM
Thats what I have always done. On my s-10 I have a single solenoid turning on 12 at one time.

hydrota what size awg wire u use for the S prong ontop look kinda big i thought ur supposed to use like 16-18aawg wire for the switches or thats for a different setup?

 

[phat2600]

using multipul solenoids seems to draw to much for the small switch box wires so using one solenoid to turn on the other 6 is the key and i know im using # 10 wire for that thats what it looks like hydrota is using good luck

 

[BLVDCRUISER]

it pointless and puts your system and risk for a run away if you have more then 3 noidz. remember your using 24v to turn on 2 to 3 noids. anymore then that is asking for problems and a waste. i have 3 to each pump at 36, then 48, then 72 with out a damn problem.

 

[hydrota]

2 sets of 3 solenoids is what I run on pumps. how can you say its not good? I been runnin 96 volts to pumps for over 3 years and have never once had to use the quick dissconnect ever. That was with autozone solenoids also.Now i use accurates.

 

[hydrota]

also the reason I run 2 sets is because when I started on 96 volts I was using a prestolite block. It would pop and burn in 5 minutes everytime. So I ran 2 side by side and they lasted for a whole summer and never did have one problem after that.

 

[BLVDCRUISER]

you have 24v opening them? thats a risk to me. were talking about 12v noidz....you put more and more load on the circuit when you keep adding noidz.

but you obviously u know more then i do, making trucks hit roofs :0



Last edited by rollin low in a grand prix at Sep 29 2003, 03:01 PM

 

[hydrota]

The reason you run 24 volts is because the motor is most of the time runnin when you are opening the noids making the voltages drop drastically. So if you were runnin 12 the solenoid would turn on then the motor would make the voltage drop and would turn back off. Then it would have enough power to turn back on and repeat the process . Thats why when your batteries are dead you get the machine gun sound.

 

[crazy4hydros]

Originally posted by phat2600@Sep 29 2003, 03:34 PM
using multipul solenoids seems to draw to much for the small switch box wires so using one solenoid to turn on the other 6 is the key and i know im using # 10 wire for that thats what it looks like hydrota is using good luck

wtf are #10 wires are they better then awg(guage) wires???

 

[hydrota]

Originally posted by crazy4hydros+Sep 29 2003, 06:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy4hydros @ Sep 29 2003, 06:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--phat2600@Sep 29 2003, 03:34 PM
using multipul solenoids seems to draw to much for the small switch box wires so using one solenoid to turn on the other 6 is the key and i know im using # 10 wire for that thats what it looks like hydrota is using good luck

wtf are #10 wires are they better then awg(guage) wires???[/b][/quote]
its just the size. They mean the same thing.

 

[timdog57]

What would be the main reason behind the solenoid turning on the others?! :uh:

 

[hydrota]

Originally posted by timdog57@Sep 29 2003, 07:22 PM
What would be the main reason behind the solenoid turning on the others?! :uh:

wire beeing to small to turn on the solenoid, the voltage drops way to low like to 15v because the wires to thin for 6 solis when i get the new accurates in im gona use another soli to turn on the 24v

 

[hydrota]

that was from the #1 post

basically 40 feet of 18 gauge wire will drop more voltage than 4 feet of 10 guage.

It may be overkill and not needed, but I do it anyway just to be sure.

 

[pumpsndumps]

Originally posted by hydrota@Sep 29 2003, 02:50 PM
2 sets of 3 solenoids is what I run on pumps. how can you say its not good? I been runnin 96 volts to pumps for over 3 years and have never once had to use the quick dissconnect ever. That was with autozone solenoids also.Now i use accurates.

are you connecting those like a set of six or running two sets side by side. if side by side, i dont understand the advantage because if one set was to stick open you would be fuct. please explain...

 

[hydrota]

I have no explaination. I just know when I use to only run 3 on 96 volts they would not work. For the last 3 years I have ran the noids with 2 sets and have never had a problem. I dont claim to know anything , i just show pics of how I have done my stuff.

 

[hydrota]

but i do run 2 noids only on 48 volts. and 3 noids only on 72 volts.

 

[chaddyb]

Originally posted by pumpsndumps+Sep 30 2003, 05:56 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pumpsndumps @ Sep 30 2003, 05:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--hydrota@Sep 29 2003, 02:50 PM
2 sets of 3 solenoids is what I run on pumps. how can you say its not good? I been runnin 96 volts to pumps for over 3 years and have never once had to use the quick dissconnect ever. That was with autozone solenoids also.Now i use accurates.

are you connecting those like a set of six or running two sets side by side. if side by side, i dont understand the advantage because if one set was to stick open you would be fuct. please explain...[/b][/quote]
running them side by side just works like he said. it puts less load on the first set of solonoids. electricity is like water it takes the easiest route possible. if you had a 3/4" water pipeline then it ran down to a 3/8" pipe then back to a 3/4 it puts stress and resistance on the 3/8 pipe, now you y it off to go from one 3/4 to two 3/8 it makes it easier to flow. kind of a half assed explination, hope someone understands the analogy. and yeah if one set sticks your fuct, but it is less likely to this way

 

[pumpsndumps]

i gotcha now