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ok i been doing this paint thang for a little while.. bikes i have no problem getting the clear to lay out smooth...

but when it comes to cars.. i get hella orange peel..
i know u can wetsand and clear again and it helps.. but sometimes your left with a little peel...

ive never buffed.. never owned a buffer.. but soon ill be getting one..

whats some tips i can use to get my clear coat to lay out smooth... so when i do buff its not a paint in the ass... :biggrin:
 

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slower reducers and hardners

extra reducer after the first coat

flash till tacky then wet coats wet coats wet coats wet coats
 

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Originally posted by hot$tuff5964@Sep 7 2006, 08:31 PM~6127577
slower reducers and hardners

extra reducer after the first coat

flash till tacky then wet coats wet coats wet coats wet coats

i knew youll be here to help.. dont know what ill do with out u.. lol..
thankx..

and when i do wet coats.. u mean just lay the clear on there to the point where it would almost drip...
 

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something like that

first you gotta shoot the first coat of clear like normal


you gotta make sure the first coat has flashed perfect, you want it to be very sticky, but not leave any paint on your finger. i touch the clear with my finger, fuck it, when its perfect, you just shoot the following coats a little bit slower, and a little bit heavier. kinda like you said to the point where it wants to drip, but if its flashed right, it wont run....... usually. also i been turning up the pressure to about 30-35 psi with the trigger squeezed, thats been making a big difference for me.

if you dont have a buffer i would take it easy on the wet coats, especially while your still getting the hang of flowcoating ;)
 

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after the first coat i reduce 10%.


also its gets wetter for me if I make multiple light passes instead of one super wet.
hard ot explain but instead of one pass u would make while spraying base make three the exact way you spray base to make up each coat prior to flash. keep the same pressure and all for me 28-30psi with my needle three and a half rotations from closed and it wets them everytime. the thinner and finer the coats are sprayed the flatter and slicker the clear will lay.





i switched up my method from slow and heavy to this and it works for me im sure it will work for you too.
 

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after the first coat i reduce 10%.
also its gets wetter for me if I make multiple light passes instead of one super wet.
hard ot explain but instead of one pass u would make while spraying base make three the exact way you spray base to make up each coat prior to flash.  keep the same pressure and all for me 28-30psi with my needle three and a half rotations from closed and it wets them everytime.  the thinner and finer the coats are sprayed the flatter and slicker the clear will lay.





i switched up my method from slow and heavy to this and it works for me im sure it will work for you too.
kool.. thanks homie
 

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You are probably using faster reducers and hardeners on the bikes. You want them as slow as possible on large objects (all over jobs) so the clear can lay down flat before the solvents evaporate. And the coats can flow together before drying up too much.
 

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Originally posted by Big Doe@Sep 7 2006, 11:37 PM~6128824
You are probably using faster reducers and hardeners on the bikes. You want them as slow as possible on large objects (all over jobs) so the clear can lay down flat before the solvents evaporate. And the coats can flow together before drying up too much.
i do have a fast reducer... and hardner.. ill pick up some slow and try that...
 

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Originally posted by sic713@Sep 8 2006, 11:03 AM~6130050
i do have a fast reducer... and hardner.. ill pick up some slow and try that...
thats 90% of the problem. Get Extra slow if you are doing an entire car. I always get the slowest possible. Usually by the time you make your way around the car it is time to start right back with the next coat.
 

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damn guys.. i just bought some slow reducer.. and i layed out clear on the bike and tailgate im painting.. i can see my self in it good..

the tailgates black.."like me" and i can see myself like a mirror..
ill post pics tonight

thanks fellas yiu guys are a big help
 
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One way to get a nice clear job w/o alott of buffing is to clear it let it cure then block it down with 800 or so then reclear 2 fast slick coats......so your not trying to level the peel of the base coat...
 

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Looks like you allready have some good advice up there, and it's good to see that you are well on your way from painting bikes to painting full size cars :thumbsup:

Just wanted to worn you about useing slow reducers/hardners, they do the trick but it's very important that you don't trap solvents... just keep an eye on your previous coat and give it plenty of time to flash or tack befor moving on to the next coat.

And it sounds like Toxic is talking about the flow coat, here is some more info on that.... http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146707
 

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Originally posted by Big Doe@Sep 8 2006, 12:38 PM~6130577
thats 90% of the problem. Get Extra slow if you are doing an entire car. I always get the slowest possible. Usually by the time you make your way around the car it is time to start right back with the next coat.
damn Doe, Im gonna use slow next time I paint, the place i go to always recommends fast reducers :angry:
 

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Originally posted by Tuna_Sammich@Sep 8 2006, 01:07 PM~6131888
damn Doe, Im gonna use slow next time I paint, the place i go to always recommends fast reducers :angry:
same thing here...
 

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you usually want to use the slowest reducers possible for your shop conditions

except with kandys and pearls, might wanna go faster with them to avoid runs.
 

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looks good, but still has some orange peel


since its just the tailgate, you should have taken it off the truck and sprayed it horizontal, flows out much better :thumbsup:
 
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