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i recently took apart one of my pumps and found a shit load of metal shaving in the tank...im pretty sure its not the best thing for metal shaving to be going through the dumps so...
where are these coming from and what should i do about them?

also, when putting everythign back together is there anythign i should go easy on,, ive read somewhere before that there are things that can be stripped easily?
any other tips on putting it all back together properly??

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THE SHAVINGS ARE FROM THE PUMPHEAD. DUMP ALL THE OIL OUT AND CLEAN THE TANK OUT AND REFILL WITH NEW OIL AND BECAREFUL WHEN YOU TIGHTEN THE BOLTS FROM THE PUMPHEAD TO THE BLOCK.
 

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metal shavings is really not a good sign! better check the pump head shaft for damadge...

as for it happening again...you could put a powerful magnet in the bottom of the tank...away from the block so it will collect the shavings...

could try that...but check you pump head...theres definatly mess up gears...and the more the shaving pass true the more fuked up the gears going to be...those shaving are like sand blast!

shit I somebody said magnets first :uh: :( ....... :biggrin:



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Magnets wont pick up the aluminum shavings the only thing you can do is clean out the shavings. You need to Prime the pump head when it is new. What you do it hold the dump switch while manually powering the pump on 24 volts. Do this for about 10-15 seconds. If you put 72 volts to a new pump head that will create large metal shavings cause the pump head hasnt been broken in yet. When you Prime the pump head it allows the gears to cut any excess aluminum from the pump casing creating a tight tolerance against the gears and the pumps casing.

Magnets would only work on a metal pump head like the fenners. Again magnets will do nothing for a marzocchi or Rockford pump.

You can also add a filter but then you will slow your system down depending on what type of filter you run.

Hope that helps.

Eric



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Originally posted by Volv_lo@Oct 15 2003, 02:09 PM
Magnets....


Wheres OGcaddy....?????????





















just Playing OG... :biggrin: :biggrin:






prolly the majority of it is from machining the block and it not being cleaned properly....
add magnets and change your fliud, you'll be good.... :biggrin:
socalwhiteguy, explained it all
 

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Originally posted by socalwhiteguy@Oct 15 2003, 11:18 AM
Magnets wont pick up the aluminum shavings the only thing you can do is clean out the shavings. You need to Prime the pump head when it is new. What you do it hold the dump switch while manually powering the pump on 24 volts. Do this for about 10-15 seconds. If you put 72 volts to a new pump head that will create large metal shavings cause the pump head hasnt been broken in yet. When you Prime the pump head it allows the gears to cut any excess aluminum from the pump casing creating a tight tolerance against the gears and the pumps casing.

Magnets would only work on a metal pump head like the fenners. Again magnets will do nothing for a marzocchi or Rockford pump.

You can also add a filter but then you will slow your system down depending on what type of filter you run.

Hope that helps.

Eric
thats what i was going to say ;)
 

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Most of the filings in the oil are from machining.... which will be attracted to magnets..

The gears in a marzocchi are S2, again, attracted to magnets..... (but wont give much shaving if any)

There is wear in the gears that are turning that are rotating on metal inserts that are pressed into aluminum.. NO ALUMINUM WEAR THERE..... only steel...

the blocks are machined from steel (usually) and also not usually cleaned out properly... again attracted to magnets..

The cylinders are bored from steel and Tapped at both ends......, METAL shavings if not cleaned properly.. again attracted to magnets....

wear from cylinder use can be atracted to magnets if road dirt gets in there and wears the metal, so now you have metal and dirt in the tank if and when it makes it back into the reservoir...
 

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Originally posted by ogcaddy+Oct 15 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ogcaddy @ Oct 15 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Volv_lo@Oct 15 2003, 02:09 PM
Magnets....


Wheres OGcaddy....?????????





















just Playing OG...   :biggrin:  :biggrin:






prolly the majority of it is from machining the block and it not being cleaned properly....
add magnets and change your fliud, you'll be good.... :biggrin:
socalwhiteguy, explained it all[/b][/quote]
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,,,.


this is our favorite argument.... lol....
 

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Originally posted by impala_631+Oct 15 2003, 04:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (impala_631 @ Oct 15 2003, 04:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fistacuffs@Oct 15 2003, 11:49 AM
chrome tanks produce shavings.
explaine please....[/b][/quote]
some cheap tanks have chrome that flake off from the inside.
 

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Originally posted by ogcaddy+Oct 15 2003, 03:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ogcaddy @ Oct 15 2003, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2003, 04:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fistacuffs
@Oct 15 2003, 11:49 AM
chrome tanks produce shavings.

explaine please....
some cheap tanks have chrome that flake off from the inside.[/b][/quote]
Yeah but most tanks are just chrome on the outside not in the inside :uh:
 

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og's right.. the chrome gets in the threads because they tap before they chrome and do a shitty job of pluging the hole.....

if you take your time chroming its all good tho....


If you just take it that the company never cleaned it at all, so you take everything apart and clean it your self, then you'll know inside that if theres shavings it definantly wear.......
 

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Originally posted by Big Baller 82cutlass+Oct 15 2003, 04:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Big Baller 82cutlass @ Oct 15 2003, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2003, 04:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fistacuffs
@Oct 15 2003, 11:49 AM
chrome tanks produce shavings.

explaine please....

some cheap tanks have chrome that flake off from the inside.
Yeah but most tanks are just chrome on the outside not in the inside :uh:[/b][/quote]
yes, there is some chroming on the inside too. take a look inside one, there is always chrome in them, they dont plug off the entire end of the tank to chrome it, they are just dipped. that shinny metal inside of the tank is chrome, its just not polished.
 

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yup yup,,,my hi-low chrome whammy tank back in 1996 had some chrome on the inside. But wasn't the greatest quality chrome whammy either, but at the time only about 2 or 3 shops sold them :(
 
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