online stores are good for price but internet sales are killing the specialist industry.
support your local shops, these are the guys that know there stuff and will give you good advice about what you should buy.
they'll sort your install problems and generally are into car audio.
why give your money to some faceless company that don't give a toss how your car sounds, ain't even seen your car and are just selling boxes?
i work in the uk in a specialist store and i love everything about car audio and wanna keep helping people out, don't wanna sit behind a desk telling you that i know what you need when i've not even seen you face to face, checked your car and listened to the music you wanna play
sorry but thats the way i feel, would like to hear from some guys in the us that work in audio and hear there opinion
I would support my local shops but their prices are out of controll. They want twice as much for their subs and amps then the online shops do. Not to mention what they charge for a simple semi-custom instalation. I know one of the local owners personaly and he admitted that local shops jack up their prices through the roof. If local shops are going to compete with online shops they are going to have to stop being greedy. Another thing that bugs me about local shops is that they dont care about their customers. If they were a MTX dealer they swore up and down that MTX was better then every other sub on earth. Or if they sold Audiobahn they swore up and down Audiobahn was better. I could never get a straight answer out of any of them. It wasent until i visited this forum that i got straight honest answers about what was good and what wasent. I never even heard of Brahma subs before i visited this site now im buying two from a online shop. I'm getting my amps and wiring for half the price it would of cost me at my local shop. To me as a consumer it just makes more sence to buy from a internet shop and do a fully custom install myself.
i'm sorry to hear that your local stores are no help, every salesmen will have a favourite brand but our store stocks a massive range of product and i recommend on budget and what a customer wants rather than what we have in stock.
what happens if you have product failure and you need to return something under warranty? do you have to return it to the internet shop?
seems like alot of hassle
don't give up on specialist stores you just gotta find the right one
i'm also surprised that a guy in one of these shops said that they inflate the prices, internet is always gonna be cheaper cos your not paying for a building or other expenses and you don't really have to know that much about audio to pick up a phone and take an order.
you guys are lucky when it comes to price anyway, in england we pay in pounds what you pay in dollars, so nearly twice as much!
The prices in my area are not average. The two Kicker 1200.1 amps i am buying would cost me about $1750.00 localy. I will be picking up these two amps from a Internet Shop based out of Florida for around $1000.00. This shop belongs to both the BBB and local chamber of commerce in Florida. So i am not the least bit worried that they are scam artists. I am in the record industry and it is the same thing. It cost on average $1.00 to $1.50 to duplicate and manufacture cd's but the record companys charge $17.00 or $18.00 to the public. Thats why mp3's and the internet are such a danger to the record companys. And thats why online sound shops are such a danger to local shops. We as consumers no longer have to pay whatever they decide we have to pay. As far as sending my gear off to be fixed i do that anyway. I guess from having a recording studio and having to buy all of that gear online cause there are no local shops. Im just used to having to do that so its no big deal to me.
fair enough, each to their own guess the point i'm trying to make is that sometimes price is valued alot more than quality of service until people have a problem and then the trouble of warranty etc starts as most internet audio companies source there goods from the cheapest supplier so the quality of your goods varies from factory reconditioned to old stock sold on to the uneducated as new models.
i just hate the thought of people buying goods that are not properly adviced, you'll know from your line of work that its not just plugging stuff together and it sounds great, sound is a science takes years to learn how to set a system up and how dissapointed are people gonna be when they spend there cash on a system for it to sound crap and where do you turn then cos the guys at the internet company don't know about set up, haven't seen your car and ain't gonna come out to your house to have a listen and fix it.
as for not purchasing original cd's and downloading of music why should you pay good money for what in general is poor quality of music, in terms of crest factor the quality of recordings was better 20 years ago years ago. popular music now is produced to sound loud to make you buy it with no consideration to the quality of sound.
Exactly! That is my point. As consumers we no longer have to shell out $20 of our hard earned dollars to buy a cd with 2 good songs and 17 horrible songs on it. And as consumers we dont have to shell out 10 thousand dollars for a 7 thousand dollar car audio set up. I would agree that if you dont have the know how to set up and install your own set up you should go to a local shop and have it done. But now you have the option of buying the gear from a online spot and saving money then paying the local shop for the install. You now also have the option of buying the gear online and doing the install yourself if you are comfortable with that. Because of my background in the music industry i know i have the know how to do the install myself. And because i am a smart consumer i have learned to look into the background of each and every business i deal with wether it be local or online before i buy any gear from them. My partner on the other hand is not comfortable buying ANYTHING online. So he is having his set up done through a local shop. He does not want to take the time and research and study up on amps, subs and installs. He says that he is paying more simply for the peace of mind he get's from knowing if anything goes wrong he can just drive to the shop and get it fixed. I respect that but i'm just more of a hands on person.
glad to hear you like doing your own car audio cos i guess that is where most people working in the car audio business started and there is nothing more satisfying than getting a system sounding great.
me, i'm good with audio but just starting in lows and i have to sit down everynight and ask a load of dumb questions on the net cos my nearest specialist here in england is over a hundred miles away.
at the minute i'm having trouble with standing 3 and trying to get hold of a street charger cos i live in a flat with no garage, but as long as i have forums i'll get there in the end.
been good talking to you, good luck with your system