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but all the progress pic's are already on 68 vert impala fest,, and black lowriders...

the saga continues!
okay Wednesday I gave the car back to the painter so he could finish buffing the car out.
(especially the trunk area) and re-align the rear pan and bumper. trouble shoot by lights because they got the blinker/flasher sequence all crazy.. and to mount the front park lights that go in the grill.. and i told him to buff out the over spray that I can feel on my window's.. I told him that I am afraid that I put armor all on my dash, sun visors and, seat's..and i think its going to loose it's wet black shinny look, and turn to that faded white, old crackly look we often see. so I think I should scrub it with some kind of cleaner and then condition it with something new? he suggested maybe spraying the vinyl surface's with clear in order to lock in that wet look?
suggestion's welcome ?? ? Im waiting to see that tv commercial where the guy rub's this stuff on the plastic bumper of his truck, and the surface got moist and shinny and stayed that way for a long time! nu-vinyl? anyway I picked up the car yesterday. and i swear the car look's worse than it did the last time I picked it up from him.. The whole body is kind of dirty, I can see swirls in the trunk area that originally pointed out in the first place, and when I run my hand over the body, (especially the door's) I can feel the coarse gritty surface of OVER SPRAY or ORANGE PEAL! Last week the windows was coarse and the doors smooth, and now my window's are smooth and the doors are coarse! He did even out the bumper/pan.. put some black paint on my frame where it had caught some of the green over spray.. and he mounted the grill lights..I cant get the side marker/caprice lights to work? I changed fuse's bulbs ect.. now I got to hit an electrical shop.. and hope I dont need a harness! But anyway I told painter that this is not acceptable, (i cant believe he thought it was okay) I told him, : dude people are going to be going over this car, over painters are going to be checking out your work! Is this how you want to represent yourself? and me? I made him rub his hand over his own work, (maybe it was not his work) so he could feel the fuckin sandpapery grit texture of the surface of my car! And yea he felt it. and he apologized and said that he would take my car back next week and devote 2 whole days go get my shit right.. he said he felt bad. Im like:: dont feel bad, get my shit shinny and smooth, with no clear runs and be proud of your work: so now i gonna take my car back to this dude on Monday the 20th..I told him for now, I kind of dont even want to wash the car until I take it back.. but the best way to know what part of your cars body flawed? is by running your rag over it.. I have to take pic's at a friends prom/grad party this after noon.. I thought i would devote this evening to treating the seats and dash board.. I have the fuckin little whole right on the edge/bottom of my convertible top, it's about the size of a dime, but its right on the edge in the rear corner of the top..(like the bottom of the back windshield) it not visible to any passer buy, but It will differently catch water in that whole when ever I scrub,wash,treat the vert top.. maybe its a drain hole on purpose?
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Was this the car you were getting a "great backyard boogie hook-up"deal on?:drama:
 

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Just sayin. I got tired of dealing with idiots. So this past year i picked up a paint gun and painted my own car. If u have the drive you can learn anything
I do all my own hydro's ...so I can imagine the freedom you feel. when you do your own shit...
 

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Was this the car you were getting a "great backyard boogie hook-up"deal on?:drama:
I dont know about a hook up deal? after 6 month's and $2.600. I think it's more like a shop price.. but yea it was all done in the guys back yard..
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I do agree with Lone Star, Man if i thought I could? I would shoot this car and make evenly wet on ever inch of the body.
But hell,, I still use rattle can when I paint my model cars.. Im not comfortable with an air brush! So it's probably safe to
bet that I WONT BE DOING MY OWN PAINT ON THE GLASSHOUSE EITHER..
 

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As you can see from one of your pics. the painter is using a 25$ spray gun. shooting base out of a 1.4 or 1.8 needle. The way I can tell is the nozzle. its not inner changeable. This will make the texture on the base rough if the temperature and paint isn't reduced correctly. This guy lacks experience and equipment.

Taking your car to professional shop doesn't guarantee quality paint shop. I have painted customs in garages, booths both down draft and airflow heated and not, makeshift booth, transmission shops, dirt fields. you name it where ever I need to and they come out clean. The best way to get what you are looking for is to look at recent work(not Pictures) or talk to others about the quality of work.

Ya, you mentioned 2600 for your paint that's not that expensive considering the cost of materials. the painter probably spent $1000 in materials to do your car. On a car like yours with good material that either PPG, DuPont, BASF or Sikkens you are at $1800 in material (if you use the same line from sealers to clear) and another 3000 for labor. Do some home work when you paint your next ride. The way you can tell if the painter is experienced is when he brings out a gauge and gauges the material on the car and tells you when to start.

When I estimate I do not give a final estimate just incase I run into problems when stripping car. I have an open estimate and ask the customer what price range is he looking to spend. we can go from 3000 to 15000. You never know what kind of conditions a cars are in sometimes this way the customer is not surprised with cheap ass work and I don't cut corners to meet the estimate I gave.

That's one reason I only do two customs a year. Yes it takes a long time and the customer is anxious but they always know how long it would take. After the see the rides the forget they waited 6 months for the car. its a smile ear to ear.
 

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As you can see from one of your pics. the painter is using a 25$ spray gun. shooting base out of a 1.4 or 1.8 needle. The way I can tell is the nozzle. its not inner changeable. This will make the texture on the base rough if the temperature and paint isn't reduced correctly. This guy lacks experience and equipment.

Taking your car to professional shop doesn't guarantee quality paint shop. I have painted customs in garages, booths both down draft and airflow heated and not, makeshift booth, transmission shops, dirt fields. you name it where ever I need to and they come out clean. The best way to get what you are looking for is to look at recent work(not Pictures) or talk to others about the quality of work.

Ya, you mentioned 2600 for your paint that's not that expensive considering the cost of materials. the painter probably spent $1000 in materials to do your car. On a car like yours with good material that either PPG, DuPont, BASF or Sikkens you are at $1800 in material (if you use the same line from sealers to clear) and another 3000 for labor. Do some home work when you paint your next ride. The way you can tell if the painter is experienced is when he brings out a gauge and gauges the material on the car and tells you when to start.

When I estimate I do not give a final estimate just incase I run into problems when stripping car. I have an open estimate and ask the customer what price range is he looking to spend. we can go from 3000 to 15000. You never know what kind of conditions a cars are in sometimes this way the customer is not surprised with cheap ass work and I don't cut corners to meet the estimate I gave.

That's one reason I only do two customs a year. Yes it takes a long time and the customer is anxious but they always know how long it would take. After the see the rides the forget they waited 6 months for the car. its a smile ear to ear.
But all the"experts"on here will tell you it's not the gun,it's the man behind the gun......:facepalm:
This case it's both
 

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I dont know about a hook up deal? after 6 month's and $2.600. I think it's more like a shop price.. but yea it was all done in the guys back yard..
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I do agree with Lone Star, Man if i thought I could? I would shoot this car and make evenly wet on ever inch of the body.
But hell,, I still use rattle can when I paint my model cars.. Im not comfortable with an air brush! So it's probably safe to
bet that I WONT BE DOING MY OWN PAINT ON THE GLASSHOUSE EITHER..
Why dont you think you can? theres tons of.info on youtube. Ibdont even have home internet its reakly not thay hard. If i have an eye for it. You can do it. Im no pro but im just sayin. Why pay someone 3gs to dick you around. And then produce results you arent happy with. Doesnt make sense?? Gone do that and you will be proud,
 

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Why dont you think you can? theres tons of.info on youtube. Ibdont even have home internet its reakly not thay hard. If i have an eye for it. You can do it. Im no pro but im just sayin. Why pay someone 3gs to dick you around. And then produce results you arent happy with. Doesnt make sense?? Gone do that and you will be proud,
There you go again.. making since!:thumbsup:


As you can see from one of your pics. the painter is using a 25$ spray gun. shooting base out of a 1.4 or 1.8 needle. The way I can tell is the nozzle. its not inner changeable. This will make the texture on the base rough if the temperature and paint isn't reduced correctly. This guy lacks experience and equipment.

Taking your car to professional shop doesn't guarantee quality paint shop. I have painted customs in garages, booths both down draft and airflow heated and not, makeshift booth, transmission shops, dirt fields. you name it where ever I need to and they come out clean. The best way to get what you are looking for is to look at recent work(not Pictures) or talk to others about the quality of work.

Ya, you mentioned 2600 for your paint that's not that expensive considering the cost of materials. the painter probably spent $1000 in materials to do your car. On a car like yours with good material that either PPG, DuPont, BASF or Sikkens you are at $1800 in material (if you use the same line from sealers to clear) and another 3000 for labor. Do some home work when you paint your next ride. The way you can tell if the painter is experienced is when he brings out a gauge and gauges the material on the car and tells you when to start.

When I estimate I do not give a final estimate just incase I run into problems when stripping car. I have an open estimate and ask the customer what price range is he looking to spend. we can go from 3000 to 15000. You never know what kind of conditions a cars are in sometimes this way the customer is not surprised with cheap ass work and I don't cut corners to meet the estimate I gave.

That's one reason I only do two customs a year. Yes it takes a long time and the customer is anxious but they always know how long it would take. After the see the rides the forget they waited 6 months for the car. its a smile ear to ear.
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