[impala67]

My homie has a 2002 Silverado that he's been thinkin' about bagging. But yesterday he showed me an installation article on a Chevy truck out of one of those Truckin' Mags. N-e way they show the set up being installed using hydros and accumulators. They use a Prohopper FBSS set-up with everthing but the Springs. Can this be done??? DO the Accumulators make up for the Spring??? I've never seen a Juiced set-up w/o springs or even heard of such a thing?? Has anyone ever done this or seen anything done this way??? :dunno:

 

[timdog57]

Yes the accumulators act as the spring!!

 

[S10laynframe]

IMO they dont work as well as springs WITH SHOCKS. Only advantage to accums is they can be turned off VIA a extra dump, SO you can hop, you cant turn shocks off.

 

[Big Baller 82cutlass]

Some people say that a ride with no springs just accumulators is almost the same as stock but you got to adjust them.

 

[RollinSlow84]

can you use springs with accumulators and be able to hop?

 

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Originally posted by Big Baller 82cutlass@Dec 3 2003, 07:38 PM
Some people say that a ride with no springs just accumulators is almost the same as stock but you got to adjust them.

all the ones I have done like that rode like a nice pair of lowering springs, if not better

 

[S10laynframe]

Originally posted by RollinSlow84@Dec 3 2003, 05:50 PM
can you use springs with accumulators and be able to hop?

In thereoy yes, but for the price of both..

But I think the movement of the springs would place undo stress on the accuums.... you know from the constant small bouncing motion. Seems like its wear the accum out faster. thats probably why people dont run both.

 

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Originally posted by S10laynframe+Dec 3 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (S10laynframe @ Dec 3 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--RollinSlow84@Dec 3 2003, 05:50 PM
can you use springs with accumulators and be able to hop?

In thereoy yes, but for the price of both..

But I think the movement of the springs would place undo stress on the accuums.... you know from the constant small bouncing motion. Seems like its wear the accum out faster. thats probably why people dont run both.[/b][/quote]
:uh:

 

[Big Baller 82cutlass]

Originally posted by S10laynframe+Dec 3 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (S10laynframe @ Dec 3 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--RollinSlow84@Dec 3 2003, 05:50 PM
can you use springs with accumulators and be able to hop?

In thereoy yes, but for the price of both..

But I think the movement of the springs would place undo stress on the accuums.... you know from the constant small bouncing motion. Seems like its wear the accum out faster. thats probably why people dont run both.[/b][/quote]
:uh: WTF :uh:

 

[64]

what Issue was it in?????

 

[S10laynframe]

Originally posted by Big Baller 82cutlass+Dec 3 2003, 06:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Big Baller 82cutlass @ Dec 3 2003, 06:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2003, 08:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--RollinSlow84

@Dec 3 2003, 05:50 PM
can you use springs with accumulators and be able to hop?

In thereoy yes, but for the price of both..

But I think the movement of the springs would place undo stress on the accuums.... you know from the constant small bouncing motion. Seems like its wear the accum out faster. thats probably why people dont run both.

:uh: WTF :uh:[/b][/quote]
what im sayin is the springs would cause constant change on motion on the accumulators. THey would produce more up and down motion, causing tons more stress on the acumulator. I know this makes sense.

 

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Originally posted by S10laynframe+Dec 3 2003, 10:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (S10laynframe @ Dec 3 2003, 10:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -Big Baller [email protected] 3 2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2003, 08:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--RollinSlow84

@Dec 3 2003, 05:50 PM
can you use springs with accumulators and be able to hop?

In thereoy yes, but for the price of both..

But I think the movement of the springs would place undo stress on the accuums.... you know from the constant small bouncing motion. Seems like its wear the accum out faster. thats probably why people dont run both.

:uh: WTF :uh:

what im sayin is the springs would cause constant change on motion on the accumulators. THey would produce more up and down motion, causing tons more stress on the acumulator. I know this makes sense.[/b][/quote]
:uh: :uh:

 

[ICHIBAN]

FOR ALL THE ROOKIES

you can install hydraulics on a car with no coil springs and with accumulators

you can install hydraulics with accumulators and springs

you can install hydraulics with springs and shut off valves for the accumulators so that you can hop and have a nice ride

 

[S10laynframe]

LoL I aint a rookie, but how many cars u see with springs anc accums? I havent seen even one.

I think theres a reason for that rookie.

 

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Originally posted by Chronic@Dec 3 2003, 10:33 PM
FOR ALL THE ROOKIES

you can install hydraulics on a car with no coil springs and with accumulators

you can install hydraulics with accumulators and springs

you can install hydraulics with springs and shut off valves for the accumulators so that you can hop and have a nice ride

I know, did all the afore mentioned years ago

 

[ICHIBAN]

HAVE SEEN MORE CARS WITH HYDRAULICS THAN YOU HAVE SEEN DRIVING ON THE ROAD!!! HA ANYWAYS ALOT OF CARS HAVE COILS AND ACCUMULATORS WITH NO PROBLEMS MAKES THE RIDE SMOOTH AS CAN BEE YOU GOT THE SPRING AND THE ACCUMULATOR ASORBING ROAD BUMPS!!!

 

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Originally posted by S10laynframe@Dec 3 2003, 10:36 PM
LoL I aint a rookie, but how many cars u see with springs anc accums? I havent seen even one.

I think theres a reason for that rookie.

the spring is not gonna affect the accum function. Why do you think you can use no spring at all. With straight cylinders there is no cylinder/suspension travel at all. So there is no advantage or disadvantage using springs or not. I have used accums with and without springs and there was no difference

 

[Volv_lo]

click my signature for a pic of an accumulator set-up. The only thing different would be the pic is for a strut set-up. But to answer your original question the pic might help a bit..

I'd post the damn pic myself if LIL would make a button like in post your rides....

anyway, hope it helps...

 

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Originally posted by Volv_lo@Dec 3 2003, 10:40 PM
click my signature for a pic of an accumulator set-up. The only thing different would be the pic is for a strut set-up. But to answer your original question the pic might help a bit..

I'd post the damn pic myself if LIL would make a button like in post your rides....

anyway, hope it helps...

that is a nice way of doing it, but if you put more thought into the suspension you would think of a better way to do a strut suspension. I did a strut suspension one way before and have NEVER seen it done like it before, suprised to see no one else has thought of it

 

[WANNADANCE]

To the Chronic:

I notice that under you're name is ichiban. If this is so then I believe that you are the rookie. My opinion is that you shouldn't state one due to the fact of these so called clean setup's ichiban has posted. Hope no hard feelings.

http://www.ichibanhydraulics.com/chevy3.html