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Sup Guys?
My question is... What thickness of plate do you use in reinforcing the frame?

Also, if you weren't doing a frame off reinforcement & only reinforcing 3 sides, would you increase the thickness of the plate used in the reinforcing to make up for the missing side not reinforced?

Thanks, all help is appreciated..... :thumbsup:
 

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1/4" is good for strength if only doing 3 sides. But you must do it from front to back, not just stress points.
 

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Originally posted by dreday@Nov 20 2003, 09:09 PM
I was thinking 3/8's on all sides.....would that be overkill?
Not overkill under the doors, on the rear humps, and crossmember, but definetly overkill on the spring pockets!! ;)
 

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Originally posted by westrides@Nov 20 2003, 10:36 PM
3/8's would be so hard to form it and its overkill 60"hoppers dont go bigger then 1/4 well some might but not too many
That is why I said just the humps under the doors and the crossmember! The hardest would be the cross memeber and you could just do the bottom in 3/8"!
 

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do 3/8 from the front of the doors back and 1/4 from there forward and 3/8 on the k member too
 

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ive used 6mm front to rear on all 4 sides i think thats like 1/4
 

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Originally posted by badass 64@Nov 21 2003, 05:07 AM
thicker steel = more weight
more weight = more stress
more stress = weaker frame
just something to think about when everybody seems to think:
thicker steel = stronger frame...
:uh: :uh: :uh: :uh:

I really don't follow this!! Stress on what? And if you reinforce a frame right the original frame is just a template for the beefy external frame!
 

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Originally posted by westrides+Nov 21 2003, 02:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (westrides @ Nov 21 2003, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--stevie d@Nov 21 2003, 12:55 PM
ive used 6mm front to rear on all 4 sides i think thats like 1/4
6mm is 3/16[/b][/quote]
1" = 25 mm
1/2 = 12.5 mm
1/4 = 6.25 mm
 

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Originally posted by badass 64@Nov 21 2003, 04:07 AM
thicker steel = more weight
more weight = more stress
more stress = weaker frame
just something to think about when everybody seems to think:
thicker steel = stronger frame...
Thanks badass, I see what your sayin'. So, too much is bad and we all know too little is bad also. Just have to find that median which seems to be 1/4.
 

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Originally posted by westrides+Nov 21 2003, 10:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (westrides @ Nov 21 2003, 10:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--stevie d@Nov 21 2003, 12:55 PM
ive used 6mm front to rear on all 4 sides i think thats like 1/4
6mm is 3/16[/b][/quote]
sorry "westrides" but thats all wrong...
6.02mm = 1/4"
4.08mm = 3/16"



Last edited by badass 64 at Nov 22 2003, 01:51 AM
 

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Originally posted by timdog57+Nov 21 2003, 10:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (timdog57 @ Nov 21 2003, 10:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--badass 64@Nov 21 2003, 05:07 AM
thicker steel = more weight
more weight = more stress
more stress = weaker frame
just something to think about when everybody seems to think:
thicker steel = stronger frame...
:uh: :uh: :uh: :uh:

I really don't follow this!! Stress on what? [/b][/quote]
i see that you dont follow this...

the frame itselfe ...
 

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Originally posted by badass 64+Nov 21 2003, 07:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (badass 64 @ Nov 21 2003, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2003, 10:00 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--badass 64
@Nov 21 2003, 05:07 AM
thicker steel = more weight
more weight = more stress
more stress = weaker frame
just something to think about when everybody seems to think:
thicker steel = stronger frame...

:uh: :uh: :uh: :uh:

I really don't follow this!! Stress on what?
i see that you dont follow this...

the frame itselfe ...[/b][/quote]
Yeah, but that is why it is wrapped!!! :uh: Your are taking the exsisting frame and making more solid. Heavy or not it is more solid and can now withstand the abuse of hopping and such! I know of somebody that has been doing frames for years and uses a lot of 3/8" on the frame!!
 

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Originally posted by timdog57+Nov 22 2003, 02:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (timdog57 @ Nov 22 2003, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -badass [email protected] 21 2003, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2003, 10:00 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--badass 64
@Nov 21 2003, 05:07 AM
thicker steel = more weight
more weight = more stress
more stress = weaker frame
just something to think about when everybody seems to think:
thicker steel = stronger frame...

:uh: :uh: :uh: :uh:

I really don't follow this!! Stress on what?

i see that you dont follow this...

the frame itselfe ...
Yeah, but that is why it is wrapped!!! :uh: Your are taking the exsisting frame and making more solid. Heavy or not it is more solid and can now withstand the abuse of hopping and such! I know of somebody that has been doing frames for years and uses a lot of 3/8" on the frame!![/b][/quote]
i meant the wrapped frame.
(did you think i meant the frame inside the wrapping?)
:biggrin:

what im saying is that up to a sertain thickness plating the frame fills it purpose of making the frame stronger but ones you plate it with too thick plates it will just become weaker cause it will weight too much. (not weaker than a og frame ofcourse)
now back to what im saying:
it dont work like this all the way
the thicker the walls = the stronger the frame
-that would mean a total solid frame would be the strongest it could be and we all know that that's wrong.
a total solid frame would be hella weaker than a box type one...

reading stuff that's written from a screen like this makes alot of things sound rude, however that is never my intension.



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