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Now I don't want to put down any of the show bike builders here, I can appreciate the time and work that people put into their creations,....BUT

I think that Wolverine, Dragon's Revenge, Las Vegas, Prophecy, and Superman, the rest of those radical all out bikes, all look stupid. Too much clutter. Pumps on a bike? Dumb because you have to cart around that battery (ok on a trike tho). The functionality of the bike seems so much more questionable than a radical car. Is that a TV on the side of Wolverine? What the hell for? So after a long ride you can park in the shade, jump off and watch it? Radical cars I can understand because once you close the hood and doors and put the wheels on, it still looks like a car. Radical bikes just look wierd. I dig the streeter bikes, like the cover bike in the latest issue-clean and subtle.

Anyone with me? Say why or why not, and don't post some bunk about how I'm stupid or some shit like that. And I'll admit, I have a bike, but nothing even close to show worthy yet.

This board's been slow, just trying to liven things up. :biggrin:

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i didnt want to say anything before. to many people get pissed off to ez. some of those bikes look like shit. a good example is that dragon bike. it used to be a 2 wheeler back in 96-99. now its a 3 wheeler. that ride looks to busy nothing flows with the body lines, some of it looks tacky.

now for superman and wolverine bikes i give them props. they have some new ideas. but some of it is to much. iknow people/owners are going to get mad. i personly know the owners of superman and small change and the whole club. there cool as fuck but why car pumps. why not mini pumps or pumps from a vert. there alot smaller and look more to scale
 

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i've been waiting just as long as you to see a post like this one... i know everybody likes to get offended and cry everytime someone has their own opinion, so i just didnt start one...... i was looking at the superman bike yesterday, and you can barely even see the frame, to me, it defeats the purpose of the style frame.. i mean: how can you have in the article that its an original schwinn frame, but you cant see the frame??..... i know just as much as them, that a lot of money goes into the bikes, but i'd much rather see bikes like straight clowning,wicked dragon,kings wish,living leegend, and asylum,etc.. win lowrider bike of the year, as opposed to bikes like prophecy II, wolverine, azteca 2000, and superman, who win multiple times.....



i would also like to see a difference in the bike of the year rules, i think there should be a two time champ maximum, and not two consecutive years, i think this would work better, because there are too many bikes like wolverine and superman showing up, and taking it and then taking 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, away from the more "traditional" bikes

just my opinion tho, no need to run and tell mom..... :0 ;)
 

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I agree with what your saying. Some of these designs get out of hand, But thats why they call it the Radical class. I kinda get mad when I see the same bike win year after year. If my bike ever went that far, I would retire it and do another one. I have tons of ideas and all of them would look stupid on one frame. Just like tonedeaf said, some of bodylines on the frames just dont flowand the bike just looks clutered...
 

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yeah i think so to. this guy i got some parts from in the city, was telling me about, how he was at las vegas bike show, and someone questioned a guy who the didnt think could ride this realy cluttered extreamly radicle bike (al be it it was kindof ugly) and in the proses his chain scrached like come thousand and thousand dollar paint job. and now he no longer competes it and doesnt intedent on fixin it. i guess it depend on how far you want to go to make it look good, but this was to the extent of fucking up a amazing frame.
 

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Originally posted by BigPoppa@Dec 19 2003, 07:29 PM
Now I don't want to put down any of the show bike builders here, I can appreciate the time and work that people put into their creations,....BUT

I think that Wolverine, Dragon's Revenge, Las Vegas, Prophecy, and Superman, the rest of those radical all out bikes, all look stupid. Too much clutter. Pumps on a bike? Dumb because you have to cart around that battery (ok on a trike tho). The functionality of the bike seems so much more questionable than a radical car. Is that a TV on the side of Wolverine? What the hell for? So after a long ride you can park in the shade, jump off and watch it? Radical cars I can understand because once you close the hood and doors and put the wheels on, it still looks like a car. Radical bikes just look wierd. I dig the streeter bikes, like the cover bike in the latest issue-clean and subtle.

Anyone with me? Say why or why not, and don't post some bunk about how I'm stupid or some shit like that. And I'll admit, I have a bike, but nothing even close to show worthy yet.

This board's been slow, just trying to liven things up. :biggrin:

K. Diaz
i agree with you on all accounts. i like to keep my bikes clean im working on improvements this year no spare kit,steering wheel,sissybar(im sacrificing valuable points for a beter cleaner smooth look). all in order to remove the clutter that i saw when i owned my twisted lowrider. what bothers me is that those radical bikes still ride on 1.75 white walls(think of 13" 5.20s on a 59 cadillac) on with all that shit on it your gonna make the back tire go half or flat when you sit on the bike. on superman hes got 1.95s they hold more PSI and can handle a more weight. my boy hes a big guy he has a spare kit extension mufflers twisted sissy bar totaling 34LBS to the rear wheel he weighs around 140 adding 174 to the rear tire he had to go to 144 spokes cause he managed to bend 72s like plastic cause the tire wasnt capable of the weight. he now has a 20x2.125 white wall in the back and it holds without budging and it adds a meaner took to the bike. my chopper rides on a fat rear 1.95 tire i tried a 1.75 and popped the bitch riding out of my driveway.

the profecy bike is special the fork makes the bike look stupid
 

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Originally posted by biggeazy-e@Dec 19 2003, 08:17 PM
i've been waiting just as long as you to see a post like this one... i know everybody likes to get offended and cry everytime someone has their own opinion, so i just didnt start one...... i was looking at the superman bike yesterday, and you can barely even see the frame, to me, it defeats the purpose of the style frame.. i mean: how can you have in the article that its an original schwinn frame, but you cant see the frame??..... i know just as much as them, that a lot of money goes into the bikes, but i'd much rather see bikes like straight clowning,wicked dragon,kings wish,living leegend, and asylum,etc.. win lowrider bike of the year, as opposed to bikes like prophecy II, wolverine, azteca 2000, and superman, who win multiple times.....



i would also like to see a difference in the bike of the year rules, i think there should be a two time champ maximum, and not two consecutive years, i think this would work better, because there are too many bikes like wolverine and superman showing up, and taking it and then taking 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, away from the more "traditional" bikes

just my opinion tho, no need to run and tell mom..... :0 ;)
i cant see the point either buy an Aztlan frame and fuck that up leave the schwinns alone people always asked why i never bondoed my Schwinn cause it wouldnt be much of a schwinn if i did. :angry:
 

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Originally posted by BigPoppa@Dec 19 2003, 08:29 PM
Now I don't want to put down any of the show bike builders here, I can appreciate the time and work that people put into their creations,....BUT

I think that Wolverine, Dragon's Revenge, Las Vegas, Prophecy, and Superman, the rest of those radical all out bikes, all look stupid. Too much clutter. Pumps on a bike? Dumb because you have to cart around that battery (ok on a trike tho). The functionality of the bike seems so much more questionable than a radical car. Is that a TV on the side of Wolverine? What the hell for? So after a long ride you can park in the shade, jump off and watch it? Radical cars I can understand because once you close the hood and doors and put the wheels on, it still looks like a car. Radical bikes just look wierd. I dig the streeter bikes, like the cover bike in the latest issue-clean and subtle.

Anyone with me? Say why or why not, and don't post some bunk about how I'm stupid or some shit like that. And I'll admit, I have a bike, but nothing even close to show worthy yet.

This board's been slow, just trying to liven things up. :biggrin:

K. Diaz
i agree totally.
 

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Originally posted by BigPoppa@Dec 19 2003, 05:29 PM
Now I don't want to put down any of the show bike builders here, I can appreciate the time and work that people put into their creations,....BUT

I think that Wolverine, Dragon's Revenge, Las Vegas, Prophecy, and Superman, the rest of those radical all out bikes, all look stupid. Too much clutter. Pumps on a bike? Dumb because you have to cart around that battery (ok on a trike tho). The functionality of the bike seems so much more questionable than a radical car. Is that a TV on the side of Wolverine? What the hell for? So after a long ride you can park in the shade, jump off and watch it? Radical cars I can understand because once you close the hood and doors and put the wheels on, it still looks like a car. Radical bikes just look wierd. I dig the streeter bikes, like the cover bike in the latest issue-clean and subtle.

Anyone with me? Say why or why not, and don't post some bunk about how I'm stupid or some shit like that. And I'll admit, I have a bike, but nothing even close to show worthy yet.

This board's been slow, just trying to liven things up. :biggrin:

K. Diaz
i agree :cool: :cool:
 

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i agree to the fullest. they start to look stupid after a certain point
 

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... what I said ...... :)

seriously - I apprechiate a showbike. There's much work , time and money in these rides - but it seems that most of them lost touch to the "flow". It's allways bigger, better and more - but never "slicker".

Argh - I should stop - it's rather hard to express what I want to say in my poor english.
 

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I have 2 thoughts on this.


WELL just to show and shine is not my thing.. as you can see what I did to all my modelcars..it has to move or hop or what ever...

I give madd props to the BIKE BUILDERS (Show and shine) and all STATIC MODELCAR BUILDERS as well, but as I from the beginnning ever said.. all miniature and bike have to have some movements...

I really dig a nice clean bike, where you can wheelie on 'em , or you can bunny hop wit it, or let the pumps do the works on those bike...

but as long as my bike stand still, I don't have a life....

Man, you know how much people will appreciate your bike when you riding it...just let the whole world(well the whole neighbourhood know, that you're in tha house)... and keep your bike in a safe garage or sumthing...

I like show and shine, BUT I like to ride it on it, too...especially ridin' it RADICAL with it...


don't be mad okay... these are just my thoughts
 

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the way i think of it, is whats the use of bragging about a bike, if it dosent move......


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i couldnt agree more....

you could say im new to the bike scene but ive been following it since 92-93...(i was like 10 when i first read LRM and subsequently LRB).

i recall there was more simplycity in the radical bikes... yea they were crazy,insane,and TASTEFUL...but i used to look at the detail pictures and be like....um.....i can pull this off...or...this looks really nice but i would do this instead....creating a more competing sense than anything.

albeit, i never got much done cuz i was a kid, but funny thing was that as the years passed and more money came along i saw the new bikes and was like WTF? its a spaceship....this looks like its gonna take 5k-6k... maybe more to build something to compete with that... and it will look nothing like a bike.

i still look at pictures of the old bikes, and look at the subtle details, and yet how they still look badass, yet by todays standards they wouldnt place in a show...

i know theres classes for other bikes but i feel like these clumps of metal overshadow the sport because of the exposure they get.


and it sucks for some of us that want to show off our style an tastefulness, not how much $$$ we want to dump on a bike
 

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I completly agree. That is the reason I stopped showing my bikes. At the time (in '96) they could place at any show and now I would be lucky to even get a second look. I kept my bikes clean to the point that they almost looked plain but the paint on them is what usually set them apart. Sure I can build a complete radical to compete with todays bikes but I would be going against what I believe a bike should look like.
 

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Originally posted by hydryan@Dec 20 2003, 01:01 PM
I hate all the fancy radical custom cars and bikes. I like street cruisers.
my sentiments exactly.........

i also think radical bikes shouldn't be eligible for bike of the year... period...


i like looking at bikes, not ornaments :0
 

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i think the radical bikes can be really amzazing to look at with there fancy pumps and all, but it would also be nice to see them using the pump.

dunno if anyone has already said this but im saying it anyway.
 

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I must come to the defiense of the heavy hitters in the Lowrider Bicycle game! I mean hey my bike isnt a Super Radical Bike but a Full Custom bike. Which is really close to a radical bike. I think that every radical bike out there has a certain style, and yes some do get out of hand and OD on the parts and it does make the bike look cluttered.

Here is my list of the highest quality engineered bicycles:

1). Casino Dreamin

2). Spawn

3). Wolverine

Those three bikes above are engineered were they need to be. The most radical Body mods ever done before. But at the same time give that high definition quality. But yes I agree to some points that some radical bikes just str8 up "OD"
 

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Originally posted by Wickeddragon68@Dec 20 2003, 06:51 PM
I must come to the defiense of the heavy hitters in the Lowrider Bicycle game! I mean hey my bike isnt a Super Radical Bike but a Full Custom bike. Which is really close to a radical bike. I think that every radical bike out there has a certain style, and yes some do get out of hand and OD on the parts and it does make the bike look cluttered.

Here is my list of the highest quality engineered bicycles:

1). Casino Dreamin

2). Spawn

3). Wolverine

Those three bikes above are engineered were they need to be. The most radical Body mods ever done before. But at the same time give that high definition quality. But yes I agree to some points that some radical bikes just str8 up "OD"
the last 2 are OD casino looks like it can still be ridden
 
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