Originally posted by B Town Fernie@Nov 19 2006, 01:09 PM~6599212
Just sprayed my fire wall with epoxy whats next?  The epoxy stayed kind of sticky is that normal?

flash times and dry times with epoxy are longer. Over the epoxy you want to spray High build Primer Surfacer.

 

but its been around 6 days and its sticky like tape. whats the difference from dtf primer?

 

dtf primer? What brand of primer did you spray, under what conditions and are you sure you mixed it right?


Sounds like you got a product failure, and you need to strip it and redo it.

 

the epoxy was martin senour. mixed 4 to 1.

 

whats the temperature where your spraying?

 

Originally posted by skandalouz@Nov 19 2006, 02:21 PM~6599465
dtf primer?    What  brand of primer did you spray,  under what conditions and are you sure you mixed it right?
Sounds like you got a product failure,  and you need to strip it and redo it.

ya something aint right!! did you mean DTM?

if its hella cold where you are try mixing the epoxy like 30 minutes before u spray it, helps me. :biggrin:

sound like you mixed it wrong though , epoxy usually dries to the touch in less than 30 minutes. have to agree with skandolouz strip it and start fresh.

 

Originally posted by B Town Fernie@Nov 19 2006, 05:27 PM~6599497
the epoxy was martin senour. mixed 4 to 1.

I will never use martin senour again I have had bad experiences with it. In school we were always looking for cheap paint and I will testify cheap aint good!!!!!! and good aint cheap!!!! Messed up thing the people at the paint supply know it is inferior quality but have no reservations about selling it to you. must have one hell of a mark up. I have a napa One block from my house too thats what sucks about it. Which epoxy was it?

 

did you add one part reducer instead of hardner?

 

Originally posted by B Town Fernie@Nov 19 2006, 05:27 PM~6599497
the epoxy was martin senour. mixed 4 to 1.

MARTIN-SENOUR PAINTS
AUTOMOTIVE DIVISION


3.5 VOC Epoxy Primers
5225 Gray
5226 Off-White
5227 Black


1. Stir or shake 3.5 VOC Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 thoroughly before mixing. Use care when opening after shaking, as slight solvent pressure may build. A 15 minute wait is recommended.
2. Mix by volume 4 parts 3.5 Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 to 1 parts CS5 Reducer to 1 part 3.5 Epoxy Activator 5236. Note: CS5 may be replaced with CS30 or CS40 for warm and hot conditions respectively where improved leveling and overspray acceptance is needed.

If this is the Epoxy you used this could be your problem! should be 4-1-1

double check mix ratio

 

Originally posted by AuggieStyle@Nov 19 2006, 06:04 PM~6600693
MARTIN-SENOUR PAINTS
AUTOMOTIVE DIVISION
3.5 VOC Epoxy Primers
5225 Gray
5226 Off-White
5227 Black


1. Stir or shake 3.5 VOC Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 thoroughly before mixing. Use care when opening after shaking, as slight solvent pressure may build. A 15 minute wait is recommended.
2. Mix by volume 4 parts 3.5 Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 to 1 parts CS5 Reducer to 1 part 3.5 Epoxy Activator 5236. Note: CS5 may be replaced with CS30 or CS40 for warm and hot conditions respectively where improved leveling and overspray acceptance is needed.

If this is the Epoxy you used this could be your problem! should be 4-1-1

double check mix ratio

I mixed 4 parts 3.5 Voc Epoxy Primer and 1 part CS30. I there something i forgot to use? temperature was about 80-85 degrees

 

Originally posted by B Town Fernie@Nov 19 2006, 10:49 PM~6602517
I mixed 4 parts 3.5 Voc Epoxy Primer and 1 part CS30. I there something i forgot to use?  temperature was about 80-85 degrees

Ya you forgot to add the 1 part activator thats why its not hard. you have tpo strip it all and redo it all.

 

Originally posted by skandalouz@Nov 19 2006, 11:22 PM~6602689
Ya you forgot to add the 1 part activator thats why its not hard.  you have tpo strip it all and redo it all.

Thanks man they didnt tell me anything about that. So its 4 to 1 to 1.

 

Mix by volume:

4 parts 3.5 Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 to
1 parts CS5 Reducer to
1 part 3.5 Epoxy Activator 5236


4:1:1

 

So do I do away with the CS-30 Compliant Solvent?

 

1. Stir or shake 3.5 VOC Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 thoroughly before mixing. Use care when opening after shaking, as slight solvent pressure may build. A 15 minute wait is recommended.
2. Mix by volume 4 parts 3.5 Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 to 1 parts CS5 Reducer to 1 part 3.5 Epoxy Activator 5236. Note: CS5 may be replaced with CS30 or CS40 for warm and hot conditions respectively where improved leveling and overspray acceptance is needed.


always get and read the P sheet.

 

Originally posted by skandalouz@Nov 20 2006, 09:59 AM~6603424
1. Stir or shake 3.5 VOC Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 thoroughly before mixing. Use care when opening after shaking, as slight solvent pressure may build. A 15 minute wait is recommended.
2. Mix by volume 4 parts 3.5 Epoxy Primer 5225/5226/5227 to 1 parts CS5 Reducer to 1 part 3.5 Epoxy Activator 5236. Note: CS5 may be replaced with CS30 or CS40 for warm and hot conditions respectively where improved leveling and overspray acceptance is needed.
always get and read the P sheet.

SKANDALOUZ thanx for getting him straight.

 

shit sucks!

 

Originally posted by B Town Fernie@Nov 19 2006, 11:49 PM~6602517
I mixed 4 parts 3.5 Voc Epoxy Primer and 1 part CS30. I there something i forgot to use?  temperature was about 80-85 degrees

When i sprayed my trunk it was about 68-69 and it took a little longer to dry. But seems like you found your problem anyways.